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Carlin had a way with words, didn't he? He'd come a long way from the Hippy Dippy Weatherman. :D
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The real bailout; 7.7 TRILLION DOLLARS!!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-2 ... ncome.html
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The real story about where the American Greenback comes from.

It's scary, and our money is cooked up the same way.

Put your head in the sand, or realize reality. Your choice. (Oh, and by the way... try to prove this wrong.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM

And by the way, when they talk about Red(Roth) Shield(schild), that's what they mean.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ild_family

Research it on your own, and make your own decision how you think life should be... while you can. :roll:
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Houston, we have a problem...

When Americans are thinking to emigrate to countries that offer better freedoms, then there is a big problem. News blackouts on proposed legislations? In America? :shock:

Well, according to this piece, Iran sounds like a good place to retire. :lol:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/we-are ... 3-190.html
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Mig29 wrote:
flyinggreasemonkey wrote:They're too lazy to go out and make money so they're trying to force change so they get it for free, if not a lot easier.
Far from it....but if you look at it, you are already (almost working for free) when Gov't hits you with up to 50% of taxes, you end up working for a lot less then some poorer countries in Europe or S.America. But because any Jo can get a credit card or a loan, it doesn't seem like that.

I agree, the protests are pretty futile until a mass majority of people join in and boycott their Gov't, their MPs, mass wide strikes like in Europe and then maybe, just maybe we'll get somewhere.

Winter is coming, and we all know how well people protest outdoors in -25C ...
And where does our tax money go? Does it disappear into thin air?
We get roads, social services, health care, law enforcement...hardly "working for free"
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And where does our tax money go?
Is that a trick question?
Since 2006, the Tories have increased nominal federal spending from about $175-billion to just over $250billion. That's a shocking rise of almost 43%.
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Colonel Sanders wrote:
And where does our tax money go?
Is that a trick question?
Since 2006, the Tories have increased nominal federal spending from about $175-billion to just over $250billion. That's a shocking rise of almost 43%.
Numbers like that usually need a little explanation. On the face of it, it does look shocking. However, how much of this increase is structural, and how much is short term spending that will stop in better times? A good chunk of that increase came as a result of opposition parties demand for stimulus spending when the Tories were in a minority position. This extra spending in theory should stop as the economy improves.

The second problem, is that many sources will call tax cuts 'spending', as if the Government was somehow entitled to take more money from us than required. how much of this increase in 'spending' was simply cutting taxes? The Liberals boasted 20$bn surpluses. Thats taking a lot of money out of our pockets that they did not really need.

I suppose some of this increase also comes from inflation.
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Spokes wrote:The Liberals boasted 20$bn surpluses. Thats taking a lot of money out of our pockets that they did not really need.
All of the budget surpluses went toward reducing our debt, and since you're a smart guy you know that debt is what's threatening to destroy the European Union/Euro and create economic havoc in the rest of the world.

I'm no fan of the Liberals, but the financial regulations they put in place and the fiscal discipline they exercised while in power are the only reasons Harper can brag about Canada's enviable situation today. It certainly wasn't anything he did.
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Another thought I had on the weekend:

I don't think all of these people around the world would be hanging out in parks for weeks if they had decent jobs to go to.

Just a thought.
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Jealousy and shame is the motivation behind Canada’s radical leftists. They would never admit jealousy is what drives them. In fact, they probably don't even recognize that trait in themselves. But the way the radical left looks at things is not what they have, but what others have. They obsess that if someone else has something, then they too should be entitled to it. It doesn`t matter if people better off than them worked harder, are smarter, took risks to achieve their advantages, or just made better decisions. That`s not important. What`s important is that someone else has something that they want. And because they recognize that their own limited talents and the potential of their Equity Studies degrees limits them to a life not much better than the one they have now, rather than trying to improve their lives, they want to tear down the achievements of people more successful than they.
Leftists have made it impossible for them to even work because you told them to "follow their heart" and gave everyone a ‘participation trophy’’ and other leftist 60's crap, and now none of them have the skills to get the jobs to earn the money. Let me give you a couple of real world examples. My children were born in 77 and 79. I have always celebrated their birthday with a party which they could invite 10-15 friends. Over the years, I’ve come to know some of the parents. Most of the kids are successful, as in they are employed in their field of study. ..a carpenter, speech therapist, 2 nurses, Red Seal chef de Cuisine, logistics manager with HP, and a web monkey...all living on their own. Then there are the exceptions. A degree in music history (African American music), a diploma in hotel management, a degree in Kinesiology and finally a degree in political science. These kids live with their parents and work in fields unrelated to their studies. Can you guess which kids had the hippie parents?
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Rockie wrote:
Spokes wrote:The Liberals boasted 20$bn surpluses. Thats taking a lot of money out of our pockets that they did not really need.
All of the budget surpluses went toward reducing our debt, and since you're a smart guy you know that debt is what's threatening to destroy the European Union/Euro and create economic havoc in the rest of the world.

I'm no fan of the Liberals, but the financial regulations they put in place and the fiscal discipline they exercised while in power are the only reasons Harper can brag about Canada's enviable situation today. It certainly wasn't anything he did.
sigh, I don't even know why I post here. :roll:
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Spokes wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Spokes wrote:The Liberals boasted 20$bn surpluses. Thats taking a lot of money out of our pockets that they did not really need.
All of the budget surpluses went toward reducing our debt, and since you're a smart guy you know that debt is what's threatening to destroy the European Union/Euro and create economic havoc in the rest of the world.

I'm no fan of the Liberals, but the financial regulations they put in place and the fiscal discipline they exercised while in power are the only reasons Harper can brag about Canada's enviable situation today. It certainly wasn't anything he did.
sigh, I don't even know why I post here. :roll:
The largest national budget surplus ever recorded in Canada was 13.8 billion for 2006-2007, not 20 billion. In the ten years before Harper came to power the Liberals retired about 90 billion of the national debt. Presumably you know Canada's debt constitutes a heavy burden on us, the taxpayer. That debt is continuing to get worse as we once again chalk up record deficits year after year. All of the surplus the Liberals had when they were in power went toward paying down that debt in accordance with Canadian law. Saying that was unnecessary is like saying it's not necessary to pay off that $16,700.00 credit card debt you're carrying. That's your personal share of the national debt, and if you have a wife and kids each of them owe the same amount.

Not necessary you say?
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I got a chuckle reading last weekend's Vancouver Province. The mayor of Dawson Creek was in Vancouver, stopped by the "occupy" site and tried handing out some business cards for people to call if they wanted work. Seems the unemployment rate in DC is 0% with many jobs unfilled, but alas, none of the "occpiers" were interested.

Deadbeats looking to be given the maximum for doing the minimum. They will accomplish nothing because that is what they do best.
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Or maybe they couldn't afford a bus ticket and first and last month's rent.

It's expensive to move, ya know. :roll:
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Wilbur wrote:I got a chuckle reading last weekend's Vancouver Province. The mayor of Dawson Creek was in Vancouver, stopped by the "occupy" site and tried handing out some business cards for people to call if they wanted work. Seems the unemployment rate in DC is 0% with many jobs unfilled, but alas, none of the "occpiers" were interested.

Deadbeats looking to be given the maximum for doing the minimum. They will accomplish nothing because that is what they do best.
Neither the mayor of Dawson Creek or you appear to know what the Occupy demonstrations were all about.
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Seems the unemployment rate in DC is 0% with many jobs unfilled..
Same thing around here, if you don't have a job it's because you don't want one. The mining and construction companies are crying for heavy equipment operators, electricians, plumbers - most kinds of trades people.
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