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iwannasoar

Post subject: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:45 am

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just heard the rumor how's the cool aid?

good luck

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twinpratts

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:24 am

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Huh?

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iwannasoar

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:33 am

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internal memo out a few hrs ago

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CAL

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:57 am

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oh my.....

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B_Boomer_54

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:59 am

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not surprising news. Some of those 37 routes lose money. Q400 will settle very nicely @ westjet.

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ravensrule

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:25 am

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I'm calling BS on this "internal memo" until I see it on Westnet...

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stickontheice

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:59 am

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I'm calling BS too but the rumors are sure flying around.

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Howitzer

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:16 am

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A big BS. Nice try though.

Some of you keep forgetting that WJ is a PUBLICLY traded company, not the mom and pop show you wish you worked for, or the FTU that you're currently at. As such, this information would be required to be made PUBLIC by official channels (not Avcanada) prior to any release to any general workforce.

Kudos for the effort though.

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ziggy

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:09 pm

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heres a couple of posts from iwannasoar. first one from 2010, second one from 2009.
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I just recently started working on the ramp with AC and am confused about something. This morning it was beautiful, about 3 degrees not a cloud in the sky. I'm talking perfectly clear. There was no frost or moisture on the ground. And yet, when a 320 was leaving it got the e spray. I'm wondering wh..."

Q.Really you are questioning deicing on a clear morning? When aircraft are usually covered in frost!!

"The bullshit is there but once you get L1 closed and the park brake is released it's a great job. My second career and hopefully my last!"

Well, according to the dates on your posts, it looks like rampie is your third career and probably your last

So in 2010 iwannasoar is a rampie questioning deicing. In other post a big time airline pilot.

I agree with the comment about the FTU you are working for. And what was said above about the Publicly traded company thing. There cant be any internal memos regarding it until its made public knowledge.

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Big Pistons Forever

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:40 pm

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ziggy wrote:

Busted

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Rotten Apple #1

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:42 pm

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Man I'm all in favour with anything that brings up the stock price, rumour or not!

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whiteguy

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:12 pm

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Rotten Apple #1 wrote:

Man I'm all in favour with anything that brings up the stock price, rumour or not!

Just curious, are you just a stock or a WJ employee?

I really can't see how you'd be happy with this, rumor or not...

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Rotten Apple #1

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:49 pm

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Not sure what you mean. My life isn't going to change regardless if we get big airplanes, small airplanes, or no airplanes. I'll still work 15-16 days a month, stay in hotels 12 or so days a month, and still have trouble convincing my large intestine to function prior to leaving the hotel on an early morning YYT departure.

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double-j

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:01 am

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ziggy wrote:

Iwannasoar didnt write that post, cobra64 did. He was just responding to it. Carry on slagging gents..

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ziggy

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:26 am

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Yeah realized that after the fact. Anyhoo, still no credibility. No internal memo was sent out. Lets wait and see what the real story is. Probably wont have to wait too long.

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DaveP

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:37 am

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Hi,

There has been no internal memo released.
The first tid-bit of information on the rumour will be made available tomorrow am.

Cheers.
Dave.

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Legacy

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:27 am

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iwannasoar wrote:

just heard the rumor how's the cool aid?

good luck

Ahhh words of pure jealousy. I feel sorry for ya.

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kevin.snaden

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:13 pm

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Location: Calgary, Alberta

See the media release here:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/549603

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mbav8r

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:44 pm

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Well, that's very interesting, I was wondering how they were going to fit in regional aircraft with your status pay. So a new airline with the same Westjet low cost structure, my only hope is that it isn't started the same as Westjet, because if I remember correctly, the wages for flying a 737 in the beginning were the lowest perhaps anywhere, at least in North America. The stock options paid off big time but the wages were used against the rest of the pilots flying similar size aircraft.
Here's hoping "WestProp" starts up with industry standard wages and I'm sure a flow through to "WestDad"
Good luck

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CanadianEh

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:51 pm

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In my most humble opinion I think WestJet should stick to the winning formula that has made it (and other airlines that follow the same formula such as SouthWest) so successful. It is always tempting for airlines to continue growing, but it is common knowledge that airlines realize fewer advantages from economies of scale versus economies of scope and density. Just my thoughts.

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The Raven

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:51 pm

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How will this affect Westjet mainline (WestDad)? I assume WestDad will give up some routes to WestProp. Does this mean stagnation at WestDad as far as upgrades to the left seat go?

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bmc

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:15 pm

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Brilliant move for Westjet. This will provide more flow for the mainline. It supports their interline strategy, offering more international flow to support those routes. Plus, the Q400 is hard to beat offering great economics, range, comfort.

AC will not like this.

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aileron

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:46 pm

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Hmm, we have 26 already... Big task on your hands, sure hope you don't bite off more than you can chew. Good luck!

Last edited by aileron on Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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stickontheice

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:02 pm

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A little worried that raccoon is on the menu? Probably tastes like chicken anyways. We have a great leadership team in place. We'll be fine thanks for your concern though. Ps. It's already not allready

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bmc

Post subject: Re: 50 Q400 at WJ being farmed out

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:19 pm

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I forgot to add that Westjet has a lot of brand loyalty and brand recognition. Not only will new markets see new point to point, but new flow opportunities.

....and you do have an excellent management team. I've known most of them for a long long time. It's nice to see this team together. No dummies here. A good group of switched on airline folk.

Have fun.

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