Antonov AN-2

[GGCC]

As it happens, our company flew two of them until recently..The Chinese made verisions.
Y-5. A picture of our last one on our webist http://www.avieye.com/

They are interesting to fly once for fun..Not a great machine to work in day in and day out.
A beaver they are not.

Holy Mackeral Andy....are you posting from China The website was in Chinese.......

Regards;
Dave

[Old Dog Flying]

That damned brake lever almost put me back in the tower on my second landing. The first was into wind and a greaser..then Jerry insisted on a crosswind landing..take-off on 25, left turn out , downwind for 30..a wee slip on final from a crab..touch down very smooth then all hell broke loose when I had to apply brake.

The air brakes (wheels) can give differential if you do it right but I managed to hoop the pooch and when we were looking up at the tower over the nose it was..Oh Shit time.."you have control"

We flew one day with 8 retired airline captains on board; at least 200K hours experience that day.

[GGCC]

That damned brake lever almost put me back in the tower on my second landing. The first was into wind and a greaser..then Jerry insisted on a crosswind landing..take-off on 25, left turn out , downwind for 30..a wee slip on final from a crab..touch down very smooth then all hell broke loose when I had to apply brake.

The air brakes (wheels) can give differential if you do it right but I managed to hoop the pooch and when we were looking up at the tower over the nose it was..Oh Shit time.."you have control"

We flew one day with 8 retired airline captains on board; at least 200K hours experience that day.

Must have been fun giving the big boys a ride, i'm always reminded where they started out and the good ones never forget that....

Great story about the brakes, it ain't only air brakes that can get you in trouble, heel brakes on a Citabria 7ECA wiil do it as well, we had been flying skis all winter from a frozen river, spring break-up was coming so we switched to wheels and i got to fly her back to YSJ landing RW 14...anyway she got a tad twisted on rollout and i near ground looped, the "old" tower could see all and asked me my intentions.....I replied to get this #*&*#& thing to the ramp, he said "may i remind you these conversations are recorded"

Regards;
Dave (glad to see hangar flying is still around)

[GGCC]

Just another U-tube on the Antonov cockpit....tied in with playing tennis on the wing from a previous post, nice aerial photography in that one.
And i think the AN-2 is registered in Germany.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV3MS1Md ... ure=relmfu


Regards;
Dave

[Colonel Sanders]

They're all the same. Heel brakes, toe brakes, johnson bar brake lever (PA-22), brit/russkie lever on the stick. Use them as little as possible to avoid chewing up tires, shearing valve stems, and putting the aircraft on it's nose.

Saw at 10kTT pilot taxi out the other day, high power setting and riding the brakes. I guess he didn't care about heating them up, melting ice and snow and freezing them solid so they were locked up for the landing.

[raven54]

There was also one sitting in the weeds in Nova Scotia, not flying

Yes, Transport put an awful lot of effort - and did some
pretty unpleasant things - to make that so.

Yes, that site is about 5 minutes from my house, last time I drove by it was no where to be seen.

[MIQ]

Just another U-tube on the Antonov cockpit....tied in with playing tennis on the wing from a previous post, nice aerial photography in that one.
And i think the AN-2 is registered in Germany.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV3MS1Md ... ure=relmfu


Regards;
Dave

Yes the Antonov 2 in that video is registered in Germany. The Antonov 2 flight I was on was also in Germany on a german registered AN-2.

Antonov 2

It belongs to a Club called 'Freunde der Antonow' (Friends of the Antonov in english). That's their homepage with a few pictures

http://www.freunde-der-antonow.de/index.html

Check out their Photo section ('Bilder') there's a nice picture of 5 Antonov 2 flying in formation. In the video section is a video from the cockpit at a sightseeing flight with take off and landing on a grass strip. Poor quality but still interesting to watch.

[linecrew]

It seems like quite a versatile design that can adapt to many roles like this one...

[GGCC]

They're all the same. Heel brakes, toe brakes, johnson bar brake lever (PA-22), brit/russkie lever on the stick. Use them as little as possible to avoid chewing up tires, shearing valve stems, and putting the aircraft on it's nose.

johnson bar is that what they called that thing on the Flying Brick....

Saw at 10kTT pilot taxi out the other day, high power setting and riding the brakes. I guess he didn't care about heating them up, melting ice and snow and freezing them solid so they were locked up for the landing.

That would be a hellava surprise to find you had no brakes upon landing...hell that sometimes happens with my 4x4 and it dosn't fly

[GGCC]

(EDITED)It belongs to a Club called 'Freunde der Antonow' (Friends of the Antonov in english). That's their homepage with a few pictures

http://www.freunde-der-antonow.de/index.html

Check out their Photo section ('Bilder') there's a nice picture of 5 Antonov 2 flying in formation. In the video section is a video from the cockpit at a sightseeing flight with take off and landing on a grass strip. Poor quality but still interesting to watch.

Thank you so much for the link....

Regards;
Dave

[Gogona]

Honestly, An-2 is my favourite airplane. And of course, I didn't miss that opportunity in Canada - I flew C-FAKA and was impressed to such an extent, so was ready to buy it immediately, but! There are two major factors which prevented me from this step: 1) Incredible fuel consumption 2) Under any circumstances, it can't be registered commerically. That means, the rest of your life you gonna work for fuel only or never fly it.
But other than that she is perfect! I envy the people, who can afford her...

[GGCC]

Honestly, An-2 is my favourite airplane. And of course, I didn't miss that opportunity in Canada - I flew C-FAKA and was impressed to such an extent, so was ready to buy it immediately, but! There are two major factors which prevented me from this step: 1) Incredible fuel consumption 2) Under any circumstances, it can't be registered commerically. That means, the rest of your life you gonna work for fuel only or never fly it.
But other than that she is perfect! I envy the people, who can afford her...

Hi Gogona, thats a great post from my point of view, when i came across the original "for sale" add for C-FAKA i wrote to the owner only to find she had been sold to Alberta....I'll tell you what, i hope to be in a position here soon to buy an Antonov AN-2 and i can assure you fuel consumption will not be an issue....When that day arrives i'd like to meet up with you and we will consume considerable amounts of Av gas along with some AeroShell 100
This is all conditional on my current medications doing their job....

Regards;
Dave

[Gannet167]

Probably posted before, but it's funny "and all this other horsesh&t" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxhSmeAqD0g&feature=fvsr

Not sure if a Beaver could do all this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VKjPf1SjpI

[Beefitarian]

Those are great videos. The second one lead to some with the AN-225. I remember seeing it in Namao years ago.

[GGCC]

1st. vid You certainly know when a switch is flipped on.....

2nd. vid Great stuff..... nice piloting.....
imagine they sell in Latvia for around 14,000 euros, thats about $18,500 CDN, man those Ants are going cheap.... sure ya gotta get it here, etc.....

If you just want fun leave it in Latvia (a country known for lovely women) and fly to it....

Thanks guys for your interest in whats become an obsession, wanna come along for the ride?

Just a couple of small items of business to clear up here....LOL

Regards;
Dave

[Gogona]

I'll tell you what, i hope to be in a position here soon to buy an Antonov AN-2 and i can assure you fuel consumption will not be an issue

Hi Dave. I hope you could buy it one day and will be appreciated, if you will let me know about that. I'm just trying watch these planes - who, where and what for

[Colonel Sanders]

I'd like to buy the one in the weeds in Nova Scotia and C-reg
it, if Transport didn't fight it too much and make it impossible.
I know they hate that particular airframe with a passion.

Probably needs new fabric by now, though, sitting outside.

And of course you can't carry more than 4 people in it, which
is simply ridiculous when you consider what it was designed to do.

[. ._]

Unless they're REALLY fat dudes.

Useful load: 2,140 kg (4,700 lb)

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... tonov_An-2

[GGCC]

I'd like to buy the one in the weeds in Nova Scotia and C-reg
it, if Transport didn't fight it too much and make it impossible.
I know they hate that particular airframe with a passion.

Probably needs new fabric by now, though, sitting outside.

And of course you can't carry more than 4 people in it, which
is simply ridiculous when you consider what it was designed to do.

Good to see i'm not the only one fascinated by this aircraft.....I'm not so sure why it's on TC's shitlist but i did read somewhere that certain US aircraft manufacturers were behind the FAA restrictions regarding the 300 mile operating radius, only from it's home base and it has to take off and land at it's home base only....and cannot be used for hauling skydivers, limiting it to basically sight seeing for the owner.

Now that above is the situation in the US, we have two flying here in Canada, I'd love to hear from those pilot/owners as to the Canadian limitations....

Someone mentioned a large fleet of AN-2's would give stiff competition to a certain well know single engine hauler widely used in Alaska.....I think there are a couple of capital C's in the name

Thanks for the input Lads......

Regards;
Dave

[GGCC]

I'll tell you what, i hope to be in a position here soon to buy an Antonov AN-2 and i can assure you fuel consumption will not be an issue

Hi Dave. I hope you could buy it one day and will be appreciated, if you will let me know about that. I'm just trying watch these planes - who, where and what for

Stand Bye One

[GGCC]

Unless they're REALLY fat dudes.

Useful load: 2,140 kg (4,700 lb)

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... tonov_An-2

I don't want to appear to be flogging this post but again thank you for the input, interest and the pic/video links..... a Biz Jet the AN-2 is not but in my opinion an incredible design....

Regards;
Dave

[Arian17]

These russian planes were designed to operate in similiar weather and climate like You have there in Your canadian north. STOL capable. Should be the ideal plane for Your winter STOL bush flying operations. Maybe fuel costs don't make them economically reliable though. I wonder why You don't have more flying there. Buffalo seems to do ok with their old Warbirds...
Maybe You could fly them on a lithuanian or russian register? Many Yak-Owners and lovers of old russian heavy metal here in Europe keep their planes registered in russia or lithuania.

[Colonel Sanders]

I wonder why You don't have more flying there

Transport Canada hates them with a passion.

Maybe You could fly them on a lithuanian or russian register?

hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahaa

The guys in Nova Scotia tried to operate it privately
with it Polish registered. Transport was so enraged
about that, that with an invalid search warrant, they
broke into a nearby private house, seized all the
documents (which they already had copies of, and
refused to return after the Tribunal hearing) and held
a retired founding Tribunal judge at gunpoint for 6
hours. The RCMP seized his personal computer and
damaged it so that it would not work any more, and
refused to compensate him for the damage.

The RCMP is so embarrassed about participating in
such an illegal clusterf__k that they now refuse to
admit any participation in the raid.

Transport laid a $50,000 fine for leaving the aircraft
Polish registered, and it sits in a field, rotting. Their
goal of reducing aviation in Canada were achieved
in spades, though.

Why Transport hates them so much, you would have
to call them up and ask them.

The Inspector that was in charge of the illegal clusterf__k
called me up cold, a couple years back, and threatened
that if I ever flew to Atlantic Region, she would lay charges
against me. That must rank as one of the Top Ten Weirdest
Phone Calls I have ever had in my life.

Deal. Atlantic Region is enemy territory. I will never,
ever fly there, for the rest of my life.

Many Yak-Owners and lovers of old russian heavy
metal here in Europe keep their planes registered in russia
or lithuania

Not in the People's Republic of Canada, buddy. The KGB
could take lessons from the rulers here.

[GGCC]

abridged

I wonder why You don't have more flying there

Transport Canada hates them with a passion.

Deal. Atlantic Region is enemy territory. I will never,
ever fly there, for the rest of my life.

Maybe a low level run on TC Atlantic Region HQ is in order

[Arian17]

I see...sorry to hear that! Thx for the info!
I hope everything can be turned positive for You!
Feel free to visit Germany in summer and You'll get more AN-2s as You can ever fly in...
There's also an annual european AN-2 fly-in

15-ship AN-2-Formation

Perhaps a little closer to You:
The Red Star Pilots Association in the USA has a lot of Yak and Nanchang CJ6-owners, don't know about AN2s there, but they'll know how to deal with russian made airplanes and get them registered to fly them in the US.