From High School to the Cockpit

[Colonel Sanders]

there's a vast majority of experience levels posting advice

The last time I suggested that we have a simple flag indicating whether
or not the poster had an ATPL (for exactly the reason you describe) ...
Holy Christ. You'd have thought I suggested we dress up in brown
uniforms with swastikas and goose-step around the airport.

Egalitarianism is far more important than technical accuracy. Got that?

[loopa]

Meow CS ... lol. Can you post the video where you go in circles again? I liked it a lot.

You don't need an ATPL to be aware what the hiring practices are at the airlines - I just don't agree with the blind leading the blind, especially when the blinder think that blind are correct and base decisions off of it.

I'm probably 200% more blind than anyone so I fail when ever I give advice.

[loopa]

To answer your question: airlines like Air Canada, Wesjet, Jazz, etc. weigh Aviation College Diplomas the same as they would a University Degree. These Diploma programs are actually pretty competitive, with most having well over fifty percent of the class failing out. It is also a very job specific program, training people to become Pilots, but not much else. It won’t help you at all outside the industry.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but this post right here is an exact example of the blind leading the blinder and why a guy like YQL shouldn't base his decisions off of the information he gets here, because there's a vast majority of experience levels posting advice.

I'm sorry, but I never said that the airlines required a degree/diploma to get hired. I simply said that they would be weighed the same, and that's all.

As for blind leading the blinder, I pointed out that I was in the same position as him, and I gave him some of the useful information I have learned so far. If you have a problem with that, please PM me.

Not a problem 737. Like you've agreed several times I've given you advice - there's several ways to do well in the industry.

Most of your post was informative but the importance stressed on a degree/diploma for guys in stages like you two needs to be refurbished. These programs are a mere waste of time for the money you put into it. Unless you would like to educate me on how 200 hours in a non-motion 747 sim is going to make you a better pilot

All the best to you bud!

[looproll]

In my experience, skipping college/university was the key to getting ahead. I think the faster you can get flying, the better. I still know peers with college and university degrees that are still on the ramp. I do have an ATPL.

[YQLRookie]

A few of you guys advised me on getting my float endorsement, and hitting up the float operators over the summer. However, my issue is that I'm from the prairies of YQL, so unless anybody flies floats commercially out of Henderson Lake, that may not work . I would also like to avoid getting my float rating, as I could not get it locally, which is one of the key parts of my plan to keep costs down. So does anybody have a substitute for working the dock? Maybe work at a FBO? Sure I wouldn't be able to slide into some flying, but I could still make contacts and get a feel for the industry, thoughts?
By the way, thanks for all your well thought out replies, it really is helping.

[looproll]

You should talk to Jessie K. in Lethbridge. He worked for a FBO in Lethbridge and it turned out very well for him. He worked hard on the ramp and got his foot in the door. Now he's got lots of experience, and is Captain on a privately owned jet in Lethbridge and he's maybe 26 years old.

[Colonel Sanders]

I know I'll get kicked out of the pilot union for saying this out loud, but ...

Jets are easy to fly. Anyone that says differently either
has never flown one, or is trying to make what they do
seem far more mysterious than it really is.

A nine year old could do this:

[Shiny Side Up]

I would also like to avoid getting my float rating, as I could not get it locally, which is one of the key parts of my plan to keep costs down.

Don't mean to say, but keeping the costs of it down shouldn't be the primary driver behind your flight training. Your chances of succeeding in this industry (or any industry for that matter) are greatly increased if you also get out there and get a bit of a taste of everything. I think of all the training I did, the seaplane rating was the one where I learned the most in the given hours that we did and was some of the most directly applicable bits to being a commercial pilot. If you can swing getting one, it is well worth it. Its a lot of fun too. For me it also opened up a few doors and afforded some opportunities later down the road. Your mileage may vary of course.

[BTyyj]

All the best to you bud!

Thank you!

I was actually just stressing degrees and diplomas so much because I was directly answering his question.

I personally don't understand the 747 airliner stuff at college either. Any time I see that a college is promoting an airliner sim, I role my eyes and move on.

A nine year old could do this

I would think that nine year olds could be proficient at anything requiring motor skills. I once talked to a surgeon who said that he could teach anyone the motor skills required to complete an operation successfully. However, it takes years of hard work and study to understand the medicine behind it. I would think it is pretty similar in aviation, but maybe not to the same extent.