Helpful hints for flying a Grumman Goose

flyingwire · Post by **flyingwire** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:43 pm

Appreciate any and all tips for starting a new job flying a G21A on the West Coast of BC.

bronson · Post by **bronson** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:39 pm

Just don't bend NIF or UAZ, they're old friends! Both nose heavy too as I recall, good in rough water.

flyingwire · Post by **flyingwire** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:55 pm

The intention is to get the Goose off and back on again without any shreded metal. I've got almost 45 hrs on type but never on the BC Coast! Should be starting soon am looking forward to it.

Dr. Mcillicuddy · Post by **Dr. Mcillicuddy** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:03 pm

45 hours??? Shite your not even dry behind the ears yet.

iflyforpie · Post by **iflyforpie** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:11 pm

Don't push weather.

PCD doesn't look like this anymore.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:53 pm

Once again....

Don't push weather.

angry inch · Post by **angry inch** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:03 pm

While on the water, or ground, don't relax until it's either tied up at the dock, or parked.

The guy who will be training you is top notch... Enjoy!

kilpicki · Post by **kilpicki** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:46 am

NIF AND UAZ //// HANGAR MATES IN MY DAY WERE ALSO VAK, UMG AND UVJ

flyingwire · Post by **flyingwire** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:50 am

Thanks all!

flyingwire · Post by **flyingwire** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:25 am

I understand I will not be flying any of those blue and white ones, its a new startup company. Here is a picture of one of the two birds, it has been painted since red, white and blue.

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bandaid · Post by **bandaid** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:13 am

I have a lot of fond memories of trips taken in the Goose. Enjoy your time flying them in B.C., you're in for a treat for the eyes. The west coast can be beautiful.

angry inch · Post by **angry inch** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:57 pm

You'll have to excuse me... I assumed you were going to be working for Pasco. A new startup company with a couple of Goose's? Now I am intrigued... Look forward to hearing more! The one in your pic looks like it has the longer nose that the Turbo-Goose had...

bronson · Post by **bronson** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:46 am

Ugly Mother Goose! She was my favorite,sweetest hull of the lot. Anyone know if she got rebuilt, I saw what was left in YVR. RIP Sandy.

Flybabe · Post by **Flybabe** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:48 pm

I'm envious. That's one airplane I'd really like to fly

Have fun with it!

longjon · Post by **longjon** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:03 am

UVJ was the best of the 5

sueonkent · Post by **sueonkent** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:45 am

Are these Grummans ex RCMP or where did they come from?

angry inch · Post by **angry inch** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:04 am

The one RCMP Goose I knew of (FMPG) is in the Museum in Ottawa. I have yet to see or hear any non-Pasco commercial Goose's around the West Coast lately...

Midnight Sun Flyer · Post by **Midnight Sun Flyer** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:35 pm

bronson wrote:Just don't bend NIF or UAZ, they're old friends! Both nose heavy too as I recall, good in rough water.

What is the max wind speed you would normally operate the Goose in?

Midnight Sun Flyer · Post by **Midnight Sun Flyer** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:23 pm

Flybabe wrote:I'm envious. That's one airplane I'd really like to fly

Have fun with it!

Me too!!!

PAX · Post by **PAX** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:10 am

flyingwire wrote:I understand I will not be flying any of those blue and white ones, its a new startup company. Here is a picture of one of the two birds, it has been painted since red, white and blue.

So where is this new start up company that is flying a Goose?

kevinsky18 · Post by **kevinsky18** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:59 am

There are only 5 registered Goose in Canada. 4 are owned by Pasco the 5th is privately registered. I would suggest the idea of a Goose start up is a bit of a Red Herring.

TeePeeCreeper · Post by **TeePeeCreeper** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:20 pm

kevinsky18 wrote:There are only 5 registered Goose in Canada. 4 are owned by Pasco the 5th is privately registered. I would suggest the idea of a Goose start up is a bit of a Red Herring.

Perhaps in Canada, but I personally know of one new start-up overseas...

Regards,
TPC

PS: The aircraft is painted just like the OP described it.....

kevinsky18 · Post by **kevinsky18** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:03 pm

OP said the start up was on the west coast not overseas, as such it's a red herring.

As for overseas you may be thinking on European Coastal Airlines, on the Adriatic sea. That's been in the dream stage for years.

bubba070 · Post by **bubba070** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:19 pm

kevinsky18 wrote:OP said the start up was on the west coast not overseas, as such it's a red herring.

As for overseas you may be thinking on European Coastal Airlines, on the Adriatic sea. That's been in the dream stage for years and to this date has not had a single paying customer, just lots of investors lossing their money.

Who are the investors that you speak of that have lost money? When I worked there I flew plenty of paying passengers. The airplane is parked right now but this is due more to political problems than anything else.

MacStork · Post by **MacStork** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:40 am

kilpicki wrote:NIF AND UAZ //// HANGAR MATES IN MY DAY WERE ALSO VAK, UMG AND UVJ

I also flew all five of these old birds.... at TPA from 1969 to 1972. I have a few comments for any new Goose drivers.

1. A Grummbler (G21A) will probably handle any amount of wind or turbulence or swells better than the driver.
2. You can dock a Goose any place you can dock a Beaver,
3. You can step taxi a Goose at 90 knots on the water without overheating the engines. I did 120 nautical miles in a snow storm once ...... it took 2 hours to drain the hull in Ocean Falls.
4. If you do step taxi for any time ...... drain the hull when you get onto the ramp.
5. The Goose will not maintain one engine ....even empty. If you lose an engine, plan to land ..... even in the trees.
6. You can land a Goose in any cross wind ...... you just can't stop without ground looping.
7. In cold weather ....things freeze up ...... flaps, landing gear, wing floats, engine controls ..... yaddi, yaddi, yaddi. Wait for warmer weather.
8. Landing and taking off down wind can be fatal.
9. If you have to turn in a hurry ..... add full power. If you don't ...... you will die.
10. When going down steep ramps ..... Murphy's Law will apply. If you are going to lose your brakes ....it will happen on a steep ramp on the North Coast at low tide.
11. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT ..... check your gear when landing on the water ...... if the gear is down, and you are doing a water landing ..... you will probably die ..... the hull breaks off right about at your knees.

Other than that ..... it is a great airplane! Have fun!
Just my thoughts!

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