Multi-IFR time vs VFR Multi Pic time

[Jack In The Box]

That's great Loopa, but I respectfully disagree. Congratulations be to your friend, however we are talking the exception here not the rule.

I once had a wise friend tell me not to rush into a PIC job on a Cessna 210 because he did not think a 250 hour pilot straight out of school would be ready for the experience of acting as PIC, even just VFR, without having been flying under some supervision first. Instead he advised me to stay on the ramp and wait for a flight line position.

Now that I have had some time in the industry, I'm super glad I stayed with my ramp job and went FO on a multi turbine instead of taking the PIC. The IFR experience has been invaluable, I am a far more proficient and safe pilot then I was back then. Not to mention I've flown with some top of the line people! In any case, the question SHOULD be, what are YOU learning from what you are doing? Nowadays people are so horny to get on to the big FMS, EFIS equipped jets that they don't bother to learn in the process.

It blows my mind that a person flying a circuit for a year can count that time to his ATPL 1:1 whereas a pilot flying hard IMC in the middle of the bush at night into Pukatawagan is told he can count his time 2:1 if he is a copilot. I think the USA has it right in this regard, all time is counted as 1:1. Wish TC would follow suit.

[Jack In The Box]

To the OP, in my humble opinion, the only thing that VFR PIC time of any kind is good for is getting you into the right seat of a job where you can get IFR experience (assuming you want to go airline, or something in that regard).

Yes, the VFR PIC time will make you a far more proficient pilot-you will have an easier time transitioning into the IFR world. Not to mention it looks great for the logbook, but if I were you I'd go straight into the IFR world and gain real experience.

[Cat Driver]

Flying IFR is not rocket science, in fact it is not uncommon to find pilots in the IFR world who have marginal airplane handling skills.

Conversely it is no big deal for a top notch hands and feet VFR pilot to become excellent IFR pilots.

Bottom line is first learn to fly then get the IFR rating and move into the color by numbers world of IFR.

[Jack In The Box]

While it's not rocket science, I believe it's a very delicate and intricate style of flying that when given a lackadaisical attitude towards (not accusing anyone here) can end in disaster.

[loopa]

It blows my mind that a person flying a circuit for a year can count that time to his ATPL 1:1 whereas a pilot flying hard IMC in the middle of the bush at night into Pukatawagan is told he can count his time 2:1 if he is a copilot.

I agree with this.

[Cat Driver]

While it's not rocket science, I believe it's a very delicate and intricate style of flying that when given a lackadaisical attitude towards (not accusing anyone here) can end in disaster.

That is true of anything one does in life.

The truth is flying airplanes is just another job operating a machine and does not require any special skills nor much formal education.

IFR is arguably the easiest of the different kinds of flying because it is so structured...like paint by numbers.

Sadly society sees flying airplanes as some black magic occupation with supermen at the controls...and pilots will pay to get a job.........reality is there are a lot of idiots who somehow make their way up through the system and they hold IFR ratings.

[Doc]

While it's not rocket science, I believe it's a very delicate and intricate style of flying that when given a lackadaisical attitude towards (not accusing anyone here) can end in disaster.

Nothing easier than IFR flying. Once you get the trick of handling an airplane by sole reference to instruments (which any teen can do who can operate a video game!) approach plates etc are just little wee maps of how to find your way around. Couple that with the fact there is most often a trained person "babysitting" your every move, it is WAY easier than VFR flying. Sure, you have to abide by your limitations, both airplane and weather, minimums as stated on your plates etc., but it is NOT rocket science.

[Doc]

IFR is arguably the easiest of the different kinds of flying because it is so structured...like paint by numbers.
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Anybody who does not buy this statement has never tried to fly down the eastern seaboard, through airspace in the Boston, New York, Atlanta areas VFR! I've been there....and it scared the living crap out of me! Even VFR from YHM to YOO is a hand full!
Never understood the "mystic" attached to IFR flying.

[C-GGGQ]

+1 from an east coaster. So much easier to go through there IFR