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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:29 pm 
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Ehh everyone ,

My names Anthony and I am going to be getting my private pilot license within the future .
And would like to buy a float plane.. I'm knew to all this and am eager to learn..one thing I'd like to know from someone with experience is , the travel time compared to a car? So let's say I wanted to go somewhere and it would take me a 7 hour drive , how much time would that take with a good float plane? Compared to the drive?


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Northern Flyer wrote:
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Holy what a time saver .. What school would you recommend in southern Ontario ?

How long would the full course take if you did it full time ?

Thanks in advance!

One more question what plane would you recommend thats good on gas and can carry six other ppl if possible ?

Appreciate the help and advice!


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I would recommend a PC-12 on floats. It can carry 9 people and should make the trip in less than an hour. :smt040


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I didnt know airplanes could be good on fuel :lol: I'm thinking a Cessna 206 would be decent to carry a few people and the choice of amphibs is a plus


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What you need to even consider something like this -- deep pockets (like a loto winner) and be using it for a cottage and more importantly lots of supervision and training because what you are doing is daydreaming - the reality is that a new private license and a float rating will not give you the skill set to jump into something like this. It's like turning a 16 year old loose on the autobahn in an F1 -- maybe you are sixteen -- :smt040


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Hey, welcome to the board, If you're going to be starting your PPL in the future, you're in for a hell of a ride. Just make sure you take it seriously. It's not easy but it is the most rewarding thing you'll ever do.

A good rule of thumb is a small plane like a 172 will cut your drive time about in half. So maybe 3.5 hrs flight for a 7 hr drive. But there may be weather, there may be headwinds, etc. It won't always be the best option to fly.

And even though some of these people are having a little bit of fun with you here, they're right :D You're gonna have to start off a lot smaller than a plane that can carry 6 other people (plus gear I assume?) You're looking at an Otter at least...and good luck with that! The comment about winning the lotto is accurate. Not to mention you'll need years of experience in smaller, less powerful machines.

Start off slow, find a good place to get your PPL (it'll be cheaper to do it on wheels initially).

Visit this board everyday, and read read read read read read read! When you're done, read again. Click on topics that interest you, even if they're 5 years old, the info is just as valuable.


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Here's a nice Otter for sale.

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetai ... 222842.htm?


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Hey, welcome to the board, If you're going to be starting your PPL in the future, you're in for a hell of a ride. Just make sure you take it seriously. It's not easy but it is the most rewarding thing you'll ever do.

A good rule of thumb is a small plane like a 172 will cut your drive time about in half. So maybe 3.5 hrs flight for a 7 hr drive. But there may be weather, there may be headwinds, etc. It won't always be the best option to fly.

And even though some of these people are having a little bit of fun with you here, they're right :D You're gonna have to start off a lot smaller than a plane that can carry 6 other people (plus gear I assume?) You're looking at an Otter at least...and good luck with that! The comment about winning the lotto is accurate. Not to mention you'll need years of experience in smaller, less powerful machines.

Start off slow, find a good place to get your PPL (it'll be cheaper to do it on wheels initially).

Visit this board everyday, and read read read read read read read! When you're done, read again. Click on topics that interest you, even if they're 5 years old, the info is just as valuable.


+1 and welcome to the board!
Fly safe all.
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Liquid Charlie wrote:
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What you need to even consider something like this -- deep pockets (like a loto winner) and be using it for a cottage and more importantly lots of supervision and training because what you are doing is daydreaming - the reality is that a new private license and a float rating will not give you the skill set to jump into something like this. It's like turning a 16 year old loose on the autobahn in an F1 -- maybe you are sixteen -- :smt040



Lol lotto eh , yea it's an expensive hobby/job ..way of travel but would a 23 yr old be oblivious to the expense ? Especially if the license yet alone would cost 10000 plus. I appreciate your advice on the obvious. I always wanted to fly, money is just a tool and can be made in the right trade. Lol if your following me ..


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Thanks everyone for your help .. I plan to read and learn more about flying and planes. I heard button ville airport has some good instructors and also they might be closing within the future!? Does anyone know of any other schools near the York region area ? I will be taking my license in the late fall , to start flying in spring. Thanks again !


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Plan for at least $13,000 for the PPL to be on the safe side, at least out here in Alberta on a 172. Not so sure about Ontario, perhaps more with the extra tax out there?

Not quite sure what you mean by 'oblivious to the expense'...?

As for making money 'in the right trade', if you actually mean literally 'a trade', then yeah sure, you can make the money. However, if by that you mean something shady or illegal, I would be very cautious if your plan is to get a job in the industry. From what I hear it's a very small industry and everyone knows everyone. If you have a criminal record do you think anybody will feel good about sending you out in a multi-million dollar machine with freight and passengers that trust you with their lives? Think very hard about the decisions you make. I'd be very wary of even getting a speeding ticket to be honest. If you break laws driving a car, what will prevent you from breaking laws flying a plane? There are a hell of a lot more laws in the air, and the consequences can be a hell of a lot worse. Again, think very hard about this.

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cptn2016 wrote:
Plan for at least $13,000 for the PPL to be on the safe side, at least out here in Alberta on a 172. Not so sure about Ontario, perhaps more with the extra tax out there?

Not quite sure what you mean by 'oblivious to the expense'...?

As for making money 'in the right trade', if you actually mean literally 'a trade', then yeah sure, you can make the money. However, if by that you mean something shady or illegal, I would be very cautious if your plan is to get a job in the industry. From what I hear it's a very small industry and everyone knows everyone. If you have a criminal record do you think anybody will feel good about sending you out in a multi-million dollar machine with freight and passengers that trust you with their lives? Think very hard about the decisions you make. I'd be very wary of even getting a speeding ticket to be honest. If you break laws driving a car, what will prevent you from breaking laws flying a plane? There are a hell of a lot more laws in the air, and the consequences can be a hell of a lot worse. Again, think very hard about this.



Yea there's a lot of ways to make money that's another story ..I never said anything about illegal and don't plan on doing anything illegal! Obvious meaning I'm aware that maintenance and expensiences are probably not cheap lol.. And I don't plan on flying for a job more for a hobby. And yes it will be used to get to my cottage! I'm not an idiot , if I gave the wrong impression ! Just a newb when it comes to planes and flying , like I said I'm here to learn about flying and all to do with it. that's all
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply I thought you were an idiot, just the way that was worded - "if you're following me"...it just sounded like a wink wink nudge nudge sorta comment, "plenty of shady ways to make money," in other words. Sorry I misunderstood.

If you're looking at this as a hobby, best way to get your feet wet is to walk into any FTU in your area and take a discovery flight with them. For a discount they should be able to take you up in the air from 30 mins to an hour, and let you fly it yourself a little bit, see if you like it. Meet with some instructors, meet with the Chief Flight Instructor, look at the planes...you'll find these are some of the friendliest and most helpful people you'll meet. Best of luck.


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Thanks everyone for your help .. I plan to read and learn more about flying and planes.


No worries brother -- we all had/have the dreams of flying - this is a great place to expand you knowledge of aviation -- both good, bad and the ridiculous right to the downright stupid. It can be opinionated and cutting but at the end of the day you can find some very interesting and helpful stuff -- welcome to our sometimes dysfunctional family -- :smt040

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Time to spare, go by air! Nuff said :smt040


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Time to spare, go by air! Nuff said :smt040


Better yet, go by Jet!


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