Seneca signs cadet program with Jazz

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Seneca signs cadet program with Jazz

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http://www.senecac.on.ca/media/2012/201 ... w.facebook
Toronto, April 18, 2012 – Third-year Seneca Bachelor of Aviation Technology students will be eligible for the Jazz cadet program that includes direct entry into the airline’s hiring pool.

All qualified third-year students will be offered an interview with Jazz and successful candidates will become Jazz/Seneca cadets in their fourth year. As they maintain the required academic and flight line achievement throughout their fourth year, upon graduation and successful completion of Jazz Aviation LP’s standardized tests and evaluations, they will be entered into the Jazz hiring pool.
Congratulations Seneca, and good luck to all of their students! While I'm happy this wasn't in place when I was there (I may have never ended up the floater I am today), this is great news for students in the program, and looking for the program!
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Did Jazz wake up to the fact, that given the movement expected in the very near future, they are not a very attractive "goal", if you will, for the pilots coming off smaller turbo prop jobs to aim for? Pilots with some "time" are targeting WJ, Big Red, and off shore opportunities? I'll bet there will be some really hefty "bonds" in effect to keep these fish in the pools?
It'll also give Seneca grads another reason to think their excrement smells like roses.
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Bond them? Why? Should they get hired to right seat on a Dash 8 and decide to leave.. where are they going to go next?
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where are they going to go next?
Probably someplace that they can get the hours for their ATPL.
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so does this mean that in the very near future jazz will have a 5kt crosswind limitation all aircraft?

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I would be more worried about them not being allowed to fly at night unless it's VFR:

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Feel bad for the guys slugging it out on PC12s/King Airs/1900s etc.. up north that were looking to get on with Jazz. Not going to make it any easier for them now.
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Considering the left seat experience at Jazz I wouldn't be too worried. BTW no pilot at Jazz will ever be bonded.
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I wouldn't be too worried
Yes, as long as they stay away from the 10,000 foot runway at CYYB :wink:
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teacher wrote: no pilot at Jazz will ever be bonded.
That's good news. No pilot anywhere should ever be bonded!

BTW, when this happens I'll have taken my last flight on Jazz.
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Jazz cadet program
= Career right seaters...
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Colonel Sanders wrote:Yes, as long as they stay away from the 10,000 foot runway at CYYB
Wow .. your a classy guy.

Doc .. Just curious .. what's the attraction to Porter over Jazz? .. Bond? Lower pay? Crappy working conditions?
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Does Seneca still teach their students to leave the gear down on the Barons when they are doing circuits?
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Localizer wrote:
Colonel Sanders wrote:Yes, as long as they stay away from the 10,000 foot runway at CYYB
Wow .. your a classy guy.

Doc .. Just curious .. what's the attraction to Porter over Jazz? .. Bond? Lower pay? Crappy working conditions?
I pulled Porter out of the equation. Bonds, you know. I think the YYB remark might have been "tongue in cheek"? Guess I'm not a huge fan of Seneca being the only source Jazz is going to use for this? It's saying every other "college" is somehow inferior to Seneca, and what a JOKE that is. Other than that, I'm welcome to my opinion.....even if you don't happen to share it.

I've actually had TWO Seneca grads show up to an interview wearing their AFT leather jackets. Really. Personally sent them both PFO letters.
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Doc wrote: It'll also give Seneca grads another reason to think their excrement smells like roses.
Cat Driver wrote:Does Seneca still teach their students to leave the gear down on the Barons when they are doing circuits?
I've always stayed out of these discussions, but seriously, why must you be so miserable? Have you had that many negative experiences with Seneca students that you must take every opportunity to bash them? Do all Seneca students really have some kind of superiority complex and are below average pilots?
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your [sic] a classy guy
Yes, with a grasp of both grammar and the facts.
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Cat Driver wrote:Does Seneca still teach their students to leave the gear down on the Barons when they are doing circuits?
They took the Bonanzas away because they couldn't keep them right side up. How will they remember the gear on a Baron if they don't just leave it down?
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Colonel Sanders wrote:
your [sic] a classy guy
Yes, with a grasp of both grammar and the facts.
Didn't show up on his spell check....you were expecting.......?
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Isn't the US going to a minimum of 1500 hrs for First Officers for airlines? I wonder if Canada will follow suit.
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Inverted2 wrote:Isn't the US going to a minimum of 1500 hrs for First Officers for airlines? I wonder if Canada will follow suit.
Are they talking scheduled airlines? Governed by aircraft size? Jets only? I think a minimum of 1500 hours for the guy in the right seat with your family and loved ones on board is pretty reasonable? Perhaps I'm a little old school, but I will not board even a Dash 8 on a scheduled airline, if I know the guy in the right seat can't even qualify for an ATPL.
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Tim wrote:so does this mean that in the very near future jazz will have a 5kt crosswind limitation all aircraft?

:D
:rolleyes:

I can see that happening.

I watched a Seneca grad a couple years ago land a 182 on a 3500 foot grass runway. He stopped the plane in the ditch at the end. After touching down 500 feet from the start of the runway.

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Isn't this old news, or am I missing something here? I thought Jazz has been doing this since 2006 or something. I know someone recently hired at Jazz right out of a flight college, however, it wasn't Seneca.
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Doc wrote:
teacher wrote: no pilot at Jazz will ever be bonded.
That's good news. No pilot anywhere should ever be bonded!

BTW, when this happens I'll have taken my last flight on Jazz.
I'll be looking elsewhere also.
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I feel bad for the Captains who have to fly with a 300 hour pilot in the right seat. I'm pretty sure sleep inertia won't be an issue on Jazz aircraft!
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Re: Seneca signs cadet program with Jazz

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As a Seneca Grad, I find it humorous to see the hate on here about the school and it's program. It's not nearly as terrible as most people out here would lead you to believe.

I for one think it's great that Seneca and Jazz have teamed up - it seems to work pretty well overseas - and are all you naysayers honestly going to say you wouldn't jump at the opportunity to go straight to a 705 operation out of school if you had the chance? I know I personally wouldn't, but that's because it is not the type of job I want (be it Jazz, WJ, Porter, etc...).

So congratulations to Seneca and Jazz! I have no issues getting on any aircraft flown by Seneca grads, past, present, or future.
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