It's me again.
I thought that 100 people with 50000 $ makes 5 M.
With that money we can buy a nice plane.
100 of us can make the difference in the market.
United we can kick everybody's ass.
Can you immagine everyday to YVR stopping all the passenger going in and we can give them our flyer in which we describe who we are and how broke we are... who do you think they are going to chose next time they fly.
This is a different way to find a pilot job, we start oppsitly then everybodyelse. instead to go to a company begging for a job we still their job and we make it ours.
Every day there will be a group of salesman that will go to all the agencies and promote our fare.
To be succesful in somenthing you need persistance, preparation, and planning.
Take for example sombody that wants to be good at boxing.
If he exercise everyday and he gives all of his willing and all of his soul becouse he desire so much to become somebody one day, well maybe he won't be the champion of the world but he can be a professional and make lots of money.
To succesed in somenthing you have to desire it first and then plann and us all your mind and all of what you have!!
It' like if you desire a lot a beautiful girl, you don't say the first time you meet i want to have sex with you, instead you say do you want to come upstairs i got lots good music!
We live in a world where everybody as lost his own balls.
To have a house you have to work all your life , while a long time a go you go in to the bushes and you cut your own wood and you make your own house in 6 months at the most!
If you can see that all together we can make it, then join me.
Let's cath our pray like we were supposed to.
Do not wait anymore.
The probability you will become a pilot that makes 100000 dollars a year it 1 in 2000.
Together we will make it.
Do you want to meet with me?
At list have a chat.
We can buy a King 200 used and have the money to buy an office and two big old houses to fit everybody in.
I am not joking, and we can create our own handy man company so everybody will be involved in a job and there so having shift is not hard.
If we plann it we will make it.
Don't say the market is full of planes.
It's like if you walk in to a pub and see all the girls are with somebody and you think you won't pick up any of them.
Let's play wild like we were supposed to do.
You go in , knock out the guy and take the girl.
If you wait for her or for him or if you don't do anything, i'll tell you what you will do, you will complain like all the users of this forum.
I think if we plan it maybe we wont be Air Canada, but we will become a company with lots of planes.
Nobody has our potential.
Nocompany had our strenth.
Nocompany has hundred of people going everyday to yvr and tell to all the passenger who we are and what we can offer.
Nocompany has 100 people that goes around to agencies to conquer the market.
Nocompany is expecting this.
By the time they realize whats going on we will reciev offers to stop us and at that point we will have the power to negotiate our victory.
IF you have the balls to put 50000 dollars towards your company and towards your team then you are going to win for sure.
There is no doubt that you are going to loose money.
It's like when Air Canada or west jet or all the other companies spends millions and millions of dollars for commercials.
They Know there will be lots more in return.
It is statisticly proven that that commercials done well make more then double then you spent!
If you start to realize that alone you will never go anywhere but together we will then here i am to talk to you, to listen to you, to create with you somenthing that nocompany before has ever done, a company with passion , a company with love a company with balls.
This will be the first time in the history in which a company was bors with real love, and in nature when you make love somenthing after a bit will born.
Don't forget you and me are still human, and we have to act like human.
Who wants to build this house with me?
who wants to feel the glory of a winning army?
who wants to feel human again becouse either you loose or win you will keep fighting.
It's like this little dogs that are very vicius, they are so evil that even if you kick them very hard they always comeback to fight.
Instead there are big dogs that you can scare then only making noises.
Is the attitude together with preparation that will lead us to the victory!
My grandpa ,he was italian, and he died when he was 103.
Before to die he told me: Simone i have done more when i had no money then when i was rich.
I always kept that in mind and then i realize that is a person that makes money and no money will make a person..
It's up to you.
I need you and all of us need us.
A hug to all of you
Simone Cavallo
100 people with $50.000....
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Yeah yeah yeah. . . . was pretty funny the first time around, now this theme is getting a little annoying-- like the fly in the cockpit that you can't manage to swat and that goes for your nose when you put down the Jepp Chart/Fly Swatter.
Moderators, consider pushing the BIG RED BUTTON on this thread.
Moderators, consider pushing the BIG RED BUTTON on this thread.
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Cat Driver
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simo :
Great idae but to really make money you need to work underground so you do not have to pay taxes, to do that requires cash from your customers with no receipts. That saves paperwork and having to hire an accountant.
And of course to even think of applying for an operating certificate from TC would be idiotic, staying out of the clutches of TC will save enough paperwork and unproductive labour that the rain forest would have a chance to regenerate.
But what really excites me is this concept that you outlined........
" If you start to realize that alone you will never go anywhere but together we will then here i am to talk to you, to listen to you, to create with you somenthing that nocompany before has ever done, a company with passion , a company with love a company with balls. "
A company with balls would be needed to tell any TC ramp checkers to f.ck off or you will kick them in the balls, jeeses simo I think we are on to something here.
Cat
Great idae but to really make money you need to work underground so you do not have to pay taxes, to do that requires cash from your customers with no receipts. That saves paperwork and having to hire an accountant.
And of course to even think of applying for an operating certificate from TC would be idiotic, staying out of the clutches of TC will save enough paperwork and unproductive labour that the rain forest would have a chance to regenerate.
But what really excites me is this concept that you outlined........
" If you start to realize that alone you will never go anywhere but together we will then here i am to talk to you, to listen to you, to create with you somenthing that nocompany before has ever done, a company with passion , a company with love a company with balls. "
A company with balls would be needed to tell any TC ramp checkers to f.ck off or you will kick them in the balls, jeeses simo I think we are on to something here.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
PJ, let me have my fun...
and this...
Come on Cat, what really excited me was this...Cat Driver wrote: But what really excites me is this concept that you outlined........
Cat
Can you imagine all thesimo wrote:...and have the money to buy an office and two big old houses to fit everybody in...
and this...
Where's Haza when you need him...simo wrote:A hug to all of you
Simone Cavallo
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Hey Simone - You should go on Letterman 
, we havent laughed this hard for a long while. If you need some balls check out Richard Simmons. Speaking of preparing, try preparation H- my wife wants to know where the hell were going to come up with $50,000?? I'm a pilot, all I got's a fin. Keep up the comedy act, God knows we need it.
, we havent laughed this hard for a long while. If you need some balls check out Richard Simmons. Speaking of preparing, try preparation H- my wife wants to know where the hell were going to come up with $50,000?? I'm a pilot, all I got's a fin. Keep up the comedy act, God knows we need it.i am glad somebody is laughing.
At least this was good for something.
Well if you are a pilot you must be poor! congrulation!
keep laughing.
I was a pilot in rome, and i was paid very little to fly an md80.
I quit becouse i did not want lead my life like that, maybe i am the one that wants to be a real person and not a P...y.
If you are happy with your fins, i am glad for you.
Wish you the best
At least this was good for something.
Well if you are a pilot you must be poor! congrulation!
keep laughing.
I was a pilot in rome, and i was paid very little to fly an md80.
I quit becouse i did not want lead my life like that, maybe i am the one that wants to be a real person and not a P...y.
If you are happy with your fins, i am glad for you.
Wish you the best
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So you are going to buy your own airplane and compete with companies that won't hire you? You will have to have lower costs to make this work, and pretty much the only way to do that is to have low paid pilots sitting in the seats eating KD and living in your compound.
Lets say we scrap your idea, then as a group ban together and not show up for work on the exact same day and shut the country down. Then maybe the leeches (sucking life blood out of our industry) will get the message.
Lets say we scrap your idea, then as a group ban together and not show up for work on the exact same day and shut the country down. Then maybe the leeches (sucking life blood out of our industry) will get the message.
So, let's say this happens. and let's say I get a $50,000 loan and let's say 98 other guys sign up, plus me and of course Simone make 100.
We buy our 2 big hoses and our King 200 and start "soliciting all the agencies everyday" and this takes off, we have flights coming out our ears. So we put what, 800 hours on our king 200 in a year realistically.
Simone, do you really think I want to pay $50,000 to live in a house with 50 guys for 8 hours of flying a year??
Oh wait a minute, I'll get a 200 PPC out of it. In that case, where can I send my money???
If you are for real, Good Luck - If you are not, this is one of the best threads this site has ever seen - you made my week! Have a Great Weekend Everyone - now it's off to the north and hold all day...
We buy our 2 big hoses and our King 200 and start "soliciting all the agencies everyday" and this takes off, we have flights coming out our ears. So we put what, 800 hours on our king 200 in a year realistically.
Simone, do you really think I want to pay $50,000 to live in a house with 50 guys for 8 hours of flying a year??
Oh wait a minute, I'll get a 200 PPC out of it. In that case, where can I send my money???
If you are for real, Good Luck - If you are not, this is one of the best threads this site has ever seen - you made my week! Have a Great Weekend Everyone - now it's off to the north and hold all day...
Exactly!winston wrote:Simone, do you really think I want to pay $50,000 to live in a house with 50 guys for 8 hours of flying a year??
Not to mention, on a KA 200 are only clearing about $700 an hour. 800 hours (optimistic) of flying a year times $700 an hour gives you about $560,000 profit.
As a $50,000 investor I (and the others) would be looking for a 10% annual return (or $5,000). $5,000 times 99 investors equals $495,000.
Your KA200 would bring in $560,000 per year but you would have to pay-out $495,000 a year to your investors...leaving you with $65,000 at the end of the year.
$65,000 less all of those classic annual aviation expenses would leave you with pretty much NOTHING!
My advice...head back to Rome any ask for your MD83 Right-seat back!! And on your days-off head to a good business school!
G
PS Man am I getting a laugh from this thread!!!
"Slow and steady wins the race"
Let me get this straight...
You were being paid to fly in Europe...and you quite your job there to move here and fly for a living?
Am I the only one that doesn't understand this?
Maybe you should take your venture capital, and enter a partnership with Helinas. Buy a C180, and fly charters and aerial photography.
Thinking big is a good thing, simo. But you need to think big things through all the way...do the math, ask the questions, do the market research. Maybe a few night classes in entrepreneurship might help too.
Best of luck!
You were being paid to fly in Europe...and you quite your job there to move here and fly for a living?
Am I the only one that doesn't understand this?
Maybe you should take your venture capital, and enter a partnership with Helinas. Buy a C180, and fly charters and aerial photography.
Thinking big is a good thing, simo. But you need to think big things through all the way...do the math, ask the questions, do the market research. Maybe a few night classes in entrepreneurship might help too.
Best of luck!
Please don't tell my mother that I work in the Oilpatch...she still thinks that I'm the piano player at a whorehouse.
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guy you don't see the fact that if you start now with a king, we are going grow.
Don't see the first year or the second.
Off course at the beginning verything is hard, but i think we can do it together.
if you really want something you can do it.
The secret is how much you want give in terms of your life.
There are people that do worse then i propose: they go to the north of canada and work in a ramp for a couple of years and sleep in caravans where the temperature is below 0.
I don't think what i am proposing is worse then that!
Plus i don't wan to come back to rome and fly for less then 1000 dollars a month and work all my life to pay a mortgage of a shit place..
Plus who said that we will fly for less then everybody else?
In economic if you want to be competitive you don't need to be cheap.
It's like the car market , if what you say it's true nobady buys an M3 instead they all buy a mustang.
My father is a business man in italy and he charges 1.5 times the labour then anyotherelse in rome.
He works more then everybody else. He has more jobs then everybody else.
He is know as a good work man.
That's why he alway works, becouse he offer a godd service, he is able to sell himself.
I am not saying we have to charge more but not even less.
Don't see the first year or the second.
Off course at the beginning verything is hard, but i think we can do it together.
if you really want something you can do it.
The secret is how much you want give in terms of your life.
There are people that do worse then i propose: they go to the north of canada and work in a ramp for a couple of years and sleep in caravans where the temperature is below 0.
I don't think what i am proposing is worse then that!
Plus i don't wan to come back to rome and fly for less then 1000 dollars a month and work all my life to pay a mortgage of a shit place..
Plus who said that we will fly for less then everybody else?
In economic if you want to be competitive you don't need to be cheap.
It's like the car market , if what you say it's true nobady buys an M3 instead they all buy a mustang.
My father is a business man in italy and he charges 1.5 times the labour then anyotherelse in rome.
He works more then everybody else. He has more jobs then everybody else.
He is know as a good work man.
That's why he alway works, becouse he offer a godd service, he is able to sell himself.
I am not saying we have to charge more but not even less.
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Ok then go back to Italy and work for your old man, On second thought your old man probly worked hard to get to where he is now and your a little punk bitch that has been sucking off his teet for to long.
If your serious about this get your business plan togather and go knock on the banks doors after you get your OC togather. My guess is after you get raped by TC for awhile. Welcome to WallMart will be your new pick up line in no time.
I can only imagine the quality industry rejects youll get forkin up the coin to drive a POS 200. It's Like Regency the Next generation. Opps almost forgot ,There are just a few operators in YVR with some KA to provide you with some healthy compitition. Let me guess you'll start by flying to Tofino or Naniamo. Where have I heard this before (CWA)
Oh and you said you wouldnt fly for less than a 1000 bucks a month so if i payed you 1001 your my new bitch.
If your serious about this get your business plan togather and go knock on the banks doors after you get your OC togather. My guess is after you get raped by TC for awhile. Welcome to WallMart will be your new pick up line in no time.
I can only imagine the quality industry rejects youll get forkin up the coin to drive a POS 200. It's Like Regency the Next generation. Opps almost forgot ,There are just a few operators in YVR with some KA to provide you with some healthy compitition. Let me guess you'll start by flying to Tofino or Naniamo. Where have I heard this before (CWA)
Oh and you said you wouldnt fly for less than a 1000 bucks a month so if i payed you 1001 your my new bitch.
i am not a bitch if i fly for 1000 dollars a month, becouse i 'll grow up.
Plus my father(unfortunalty) has never gave me any money.
I was a lucky to get a very good paying job and quit that to become a pilot.
At the beginning it was fun, but after when you have to pay your bills and face the reality the pilot job doesn't matter anymore.
Maybe you are a bitch! that fly for a very little pay, maybe you like to feel it in that spot, i don't know.
When i felt it i thought this is not what i was looking for.
I just want to own a company.
I just want to be what i feel to be.
My father thought well not giving me money.
He tought me to don't accept compromises that involve your bum.
I lerned to do not compromises with my bum, maybe you should too.
Plus my father(unfortunalty) has never gave me any money.
I was a lucky to get a very good paying job and quit that to become a pilot.
At the beginning it was fun, but after when you have to pay your bills and face the reality the pilot job doesn't matter anymore.
Maybe you are a bitch! that fly for a very little pay, maybe you like to feel it in that spot, i don't know.
When i felt it i thought this is not what i was looking for.
I just want to own a company.
I just want to be what i feel to be.
My father thought well not giving me money.
He tought me to don't accept compromises that involve your bum.
I lerned to do not compromises with my bum, maybe you should too.
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Why are all you replying to this *******????
This is the usual *****scam from the far reaches of Africa (you can tell by the excellent grammar).
This is called scam 101.
The moderator should get rid of this loser before a 4th wobbly-pop pilot sends him some money.
THINK TALIBAN....
Screw em all and send em back to hell......
This is the usual *****scam from the far reaches of Africa (you can tell by the excellent grammar).
This is called scam 101.
The moderator should get rid of this loser before a 4th wobbly-pop pilot sends him some money.
THINK TALIBAN....
Screw em all and send em back to hell......
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i want to clarify that i don't want any money.
I just want to meet people here in vancouver and discuss about it.
I am sorry for my english, i moved to vancouver 3 months ago and i was just able to say few words.
I am currently studying english and i like this language a lot, so thanks for replying to me this is a good exercise.
I live here in Vancouver and i say it again i don't want money.
It's not a scam and if you ever decide to make something with me you will decide where to create the foud trust or anything like that and all of us can elct a layer that will represent our decision in purchasing and so nobody will have the power to use and cent of it.
Some of you don't know how to have fun, personally i still believe in being more relaxt but some of you are so vicius and i don't understand why you are attaking me with so many bad words.
I thought Canadians were more understanding, maybe canadian pilots aren't becouse they are used to be treated like pitbulls.
I just want to meet people here in vancouver and discuss about it.
I am sorry for my english, i moved to vancouver 3 months ago and i was just able to say few words.
I am currently studying english and i like this language a lot, so thanks for replying to me this is a good exercise.
I live here in Vancouver and i say it again i don't want money.
It's not a scam and if you ever decide to make something with me you will decide where to create the foud trust or anything like that and all of us can elct a layer that will represent our decision in purchasing and so nobody will have the power to use and cent of it.
Some of you don't know how to have fun, personally i still believe in being more relaxt but some of you are so vicius and i don't understand why you are attaking me with so many bad words.
I thought Canadians were more understanding, maybe canadian pilots aren't becouse they are used to be treated like pitbulls.
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