Flight Deck Jumpseat

[arcticguy]

Has anyone heard if Transport Canada
is going to move forward with any type of
program to allow pilots of other carriers ride in
the actual Jumpseat?

[mbav8r]

They had granted approval for that, about 1 to 2 years ago, all that was required, the companies who were going to participate needed to have a real time system in place for checking employment status before allowing the pilot in the flight deck. I'm not sure how often the database had to be updated but I believe daily, no companies were willing to put in capital for the system so the temporary allowance fell to the wayside.
Imagine that, an airline not wanting to put up a little cash to make pilots lives easier.

[arcticguy]

Too bad - you would think there could
be some way to use the RAIC reader
for confirmation of status.

[Jean-Luc Monette]

How much interest do you really think airlines have in reinstating flightdeck jumpseat privileges?

This is one program less to manage, thanks to Bin Laden...

[BE20 Driver]

Until RAIC's are nationalized they will not be a good method to determine current employment status.

When I renewed my RAIC pass recently, one of the other pilots complained to me that he had to pay for 4 outstanding RAIC passes. These were at a couple of different employers and a couple of different airports. My last two employers failed to even ask me for my RAIC when I left their employ.

[arcticguy]

Yes I agree, however, it seems to me
that riding in the jump was a
matter of security - therefore if
you have qualified for the pass
chances are that you would meet
that requirement?

[Ghost Rider]

They had granted approval for that, about 1 to 2 years ago,

I have been all over the cars and cant find the section .. the closest I got was 705.27
Do you know the exact section that has the approval language?

[Krimson]

Yes I agree, however, it seems to me
that riding in the jump was a
matter of security - therefore if
you have qualified for the pass
chances are that you would meet
that requirement?

They could be stolen and altered; or a recently fired and disgruntled pilot, something along those lines that they want to keep out of the cockpit perhaps

[Aeros]

They had granted approval for that, about 1 to 2 years ago,

I have been all over the cars and cant find the section .. the closest I got was 705.27
Do you know the exact section that has the approval language?

There is a new exemption in place to 705.27(3).

[Ghost Rider]

Thanx Aeros
Exactly what I was looking for

[arcticguy]

Thanks for the update Aeros - I thought that policy was dead - I just passed the new exemption on to our
management and hopefully it will be available at our airline soon. Hopefully "others" will take advantage
also.