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Slats wrote: Calm down. You have made your point: you feel that you are above cleaning the aircraft. Not everyone feels that way. And don't go calling others out as hypocrites. You said yourself that when you flew "the bush" in a Navajo you did that stuff. So at what point does it cease to be okay? 704? 705? Jets? When "big red calls you for an interview?" Oh wait, they don't pay as well.
Maybe you are too much of a prima donna to wash your aircraft. Maybe you just couldn't be bothered to take pride in your machine. Or maybe your aircraft is just too physically large for you to look after. Yes, at some point aircraft just get too large for the crew to do this stuff, but that line is somewhere north of a PC-12. At any rate, as much as you might try to deny it, by getting all upset and ranting and raving about this issue which does not affect you, you ARE trying to force your ideas on us. Fortunately, there is still hope for pilots though, as it would appear that there are some still intelligent enough to recognize that being responsible for the general cleanliness and tidiness of the small aircraft that is both your office and your instrument, is not what makes a job bad.
And lay off Chuck, he said nothing untoward to you.
That's quite the assumptions you made there. What made you think that I feel I am above cleaning an airplane? I clearly said that when the resources are available, I am against it, however, when being in the bush, as I was, the resources were not there, hence I did it, and with a smile on my face, because I believed in what I was doing.
I also did not work for a multi-million company, who's advertising for brand new shiny (depending on your detailing expertise) jets. I worked for a mom'n'pop operation. One has to be realistic. Also, one has to know when they are being taken advantage of.
Clearly, you feel lucky to be cleaning an airplane for a living, and there is nothing wrong with that, if that's what you were hired for. Washing an airplane that you flew makes you feel proud? You see, I'm proud of the work that I do, the safety, the CRM, the experience, and the customer service that I provide, on a daily basis. I take pride in making my whole crew feeling comfortable, confident, appreciated, and a useful part of the team. I take pride in helping the groomers, the rampies, and going out of my way to get the job done. I do so because I want to help, not because the company doesn't hire others to do the job, and require me to do so. I take pride by helping others, because at one point, I was there, and I did those jobs. This is the difference between us. Call me princess or suzy or sally, it doesn't change the fact that we both see our profession in a different light.
All of this of course, is in my 'prima donna', opinion. Afterall, I can't be cleaning a hangar while I'm in my prada shoes, those buggers are quite slippery on a contaminated surface.
Sulako wrote: I edited the quote for clarity. Seriously though - here's a quick review of corporate flying - I feel entitled to say that as I have been flying corporate for the past 7 years, and I hope I'm not totally clueless in how it works.
the chores you mentioned hardly qualify cleaning an airplane. Who vaccumes the carpet? shampoes it? Who cleans the lav? Who washes the exterior of the airplane? If someone gets sick, who is it that cleans the mess?
I initially brought this topic up, because AS was known to have the pilots clean, and by clean I mean wash the airplanes, and clean the hangars. If this practice has changed, then good for them. |
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