Annual after import?

[MrWings]

If importing a US aircraft that had a recent annual in the States, do you have to perform a Canadian annual after the Canadian C of A is issued?

I am getting conflicting information.

[helicopterray]

CARS 507.07

An annual inspection in the US is acceptable.

You will have to show that all Canadian issued AD's are complied with, and any alterations through Service Bulletins or STC's are valid in Canada.

The annual won't be due again until the anniversary date of when it was done in the US.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/r ... s-1804.htm

[Colonel Sanders]

Correct. However, during the course of the inspection
required by MSI-26, the requirements for an annual
inspection are likely going to be met anyways so you
might as well get one signed off on the date of import
and get yourself a few more months for virtually no
extra cost. Good cost/benefit ratio there.

Reminds me of an aircraft I looked at the other day. The
new owner spent a lot of coin on a very thorough inspection
and AD/SB search for the pre-buy, but didn't get an annual
inspection signed off. You might as well, for gosh sake's.

[cgartly]

I've imported two 172's from the states one with an Export Certificate of Airworthiness, and one without. The one with the Export C of A did not require an annual inspection in Canada, the one without did:

(5) The Minister will accept an imported aircraft which does not have an EAC issued by the civil aviation authority of the exporting country where the aircraft is inspected and certified by a person authorised to do so under CAR 507.10. Inspection, including disassembly when necessary, depending on the technical history of the aircraft, shall be conducted as follows:

(a) if the technical history of the aircraft is sufficient, a 100-hour inspection, or equivalent, shall be carried out.

[Bede]

I always recommend paying a CANADIAN AME who is familiar with the type to go down to the US, do a pre-purchase which includes an AD review and covers everything on the most comprehensive inspection. Then the import is much easier and you will be free of surprises.

Like an AME I trust says, "pay me now or pay me a lot later".

[1000 HP]

I'm considering purchasing an aircraft from the USA. It is alot cheaper than a similar Canadian machine and has the advantage of being flown regularily in the last year. I'd definitely take a mechanic down with me though. Has anybody got a reccommendation on a mechanic with experience on radials and preferably military aircraft (T-28) that lives in Saskatchewan or Alberta? It's got a 1820 on the nose.

Also, what kind of pricetag for importing? Is it just by the hour? I'm guessing by the previous folks comments that I may as well annual it at the same time. What other fees are involved?

I'd be real interested in the Canadian one for sale but I just found out it hasn't flown for several years.

While I'm at it, if anybody is looking for a nice economical airplane, I have an M20F for sale.

[Colonel Sanders]

T-28

In addition to the usual mechanical/electrical/hydraulic
stuff, be sure you have your paperwork ducks in a row
before you purchase it.

For example, is a T-28 a certified aircraft? Not bloody
likely. Are there any already in Canada? Under what
flight authority do they operate? Did they get grandfathered?
Are you eligible to do the same?

I know that there are A, B and C models of the T-28.
Which one are you looking at? Although they might look
identical on the ramp, from a paperwork standpoint they
might be completely different animals. One might be eligible
for import, another might not depending upon what
paper got pushed, decades ago.

Looking at the TC registry, there are several T-28's already
there, which is good news, but is NOT a slam dunk.

They operate under CAR 507.03(5)(a) which is kind of
weird - I would have expected CAR Standard 507.03(5)(b),
so there is a paperwork story there that you need to get
up to speed on. Talk to your local TC M&M Inspector that
would be overseeing the delegate before you write a cheque!

PS Be sure you have $20k to $50k and six months set aside
for the import. It might go cheaper and faster than that
(yeah, right), and it might go more expensive and slower than
that, depending upon the actual aircraft and paperwork that
you end up with. If you face some challenges, don't be surprised
if you end up spending $100k to $200k on the import which
takes a year. The T-28 is a very expensive aircraft to operate
which is why the purchase price is so cheap. Make sure you
have money left over, after you buy it, to cover the very high
hourly cost of operation. Many owners make this mistake,
and are "airplane poor".

[SeptRepair]

There are a couple T-28's in Calgary (Sprinbank) of which one was just recently imported. The recent imported one is owned by Todd Lemieux. You can PM me for his contact information and hopefully he could put you onto the guy who just did his import.