CYOW Runway excersion

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:42 pm

Anyone from CYOW have any info on the Jazz 146 off the runway?

Cat

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:09 pm

Never heard of anything on the news ., and I don't think Prince Charles is in town doing recurrent. I though they put the engines up high on the old Fisher Price jet in case some government whiz kid or royalty tried to fly one.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:10 am

I haven't heard anything around Ottawa yet...

BAH!!! · Post by **BAH!!!** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:24 am

This is the only thing I have been able to find. Doesnt really explain much though.

http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=1&nid=12162

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:38 am

"<i>A Jazz spokesperson say the airbus slipped off the runway as it taxied to the terminal Saturday afternoon.
The spokesperson says the aircraft was moving at a "walking pace" at the time of the incident. </i>"

Puhlease! I remember 680 News in Toronto getting all excited about "No one was injured" when one of our 67's ventured off a taxiway in a snow storm 'cause the damn taxiways weren't visible.... "skidded off the runway" they said.... and another time the newspapers reported a "flooded carburetor that caused an engine fire" when a Nationair DC8 had a wee bit of a flare up on start...

They're vultures and morons clambering for anything at all, when nothing is there.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:58 am

The Transporation Safety Board has been called into investigate

Nice to see that people who write for a living cannot do so any better than we can. If they cannot even get the grammar right what are the chances they can get the facts right?

ahramin

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:18 am

[quote="Griffon"]"<i>A Jazz spokesperson say the airbus slipped off the runway as it taxied to the terminal Saturday afternoon.
The spokesperson says the aircraft was moving at a "walking pace" at the time of the incident. </i>"

Since when does Jazz fly Airbus products??

CD · Post by CD » Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:42 am

Here is what the local paper had to say...

Safety board to investigate after plane skids off tarmac

The Transportation Safety Board has launched an investigation after an airplane skidded off the tarmac while landing at Ottawa International Airport yesterday afternoon.

Air Canada Jazz Flight 8674 from Toronto ran aground at about 4:40 p.m., when the crew wan unable to bring the plane to a halt as it turned off the runway onto a taxiway.

None of the 76 passengers abord the British Aerospace BAe146 were injured.

Paul Benoit, president of the airport authority, said the runway conditions were good at the time, adding that no other flights were disrupted as a result of the incident.

Tamar Savuchi, a spokeswoman for Air Canada Jazz, said the cause of the accident was not known, and that the flight crew had followed the proper procedure for such a situation.

Disco Stu · Post by **Disco Stu** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:59 am

If they were trying to land on the tarmac they have bigger problems to worry about!

From Canoe:

VANCOUVER (CP) - There are only about 20 vulcanologists in Canada, and they have nothing do with Star Trek.

They're volcano experts and a recent addition to Simon Fraser University's earth sciences department. They say Lower Mainland residents should be aware of the threat volcanoes pose to air travellers over the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

Glyn William-Jones studies volcanoes for a living. A geologist by training, he's well aware of the towering presence of Mount Baker and other volcanoes along the west coast, especially after the mammoth Mount St. Helens explosion two decades ago in southern Washington state.

Williams-Jones points to instances of commercial airliners in other parts of the world being put in near-disaster situations by flying near erupting volcanoes.

He fears a similar event could occur in this area if Mount Baker, which last erupted in the 1880s, was to erupt again and the ash was sucked into the jet turbines. It's a remote but possible scenario.

"If Mount Baker were to erupt like Mount St. Helens, all that ash in the sky is sucked into an engine," he says. "That ash melts on turbine blades and the engine stops."

"It's close enough that we need to be aware of it."

In 1989, there was a near tragedy over the Redout volcano in Alaska when a KLM jet encountered a cloud of volcanic ash.

All four of the KLM jet's engines shut down and the plane plunged 4,000 metres before efforts to restart the engines resulted in the blades shattering the ash, which had turned into a glass-like material.

A British Airways jet flying over a volcano in Indonesia had a similar problem because the radar equipment of commercial aircraft can't pick up the ash, Williams-Jones says.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004 ... 86-cp.html

Nobody fly out west, just in case a volcanoe erupts! The media loves to sensationalize.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:09 am

Plunged 4000 metres, love it. Did the wings fall off too? I guess i had better start checking the volcanic ash charts in case center forgets to mention it.

When the lynchings begin i vote we start with reporters instead of lawyers. At least lawyers can read and write.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:58 pm

No big deal, just add recovery from plunging to

flight training.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:11 pm

I got word of the incident from an employee of the airport. Apparently a Jazz BAe had some hydraulics problems on landing, and went a little long on the runway. They went passed the end threshold markings, but still remained on pavement.

107 · Post by **107** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:39 pm

May be a bit late after the fact, but I heard they had a blown fydraulic line after the fact. Don't know if it was the original cause of the slide ... was pretty slippery out there at the time too ... Bet they wished they'd have had reverse thrust to help out a bit lol ...

Take it easy!
-107-

too far north · Post by **too far north** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:39 am

I spoke with a pilot that came in just before them in a 320, and there was a tail wind for the runway that was used. Wonder if that had anything to do with it, cause the capt told me he was thankful he had reverse thrust for that landing.