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crj_705, are you still pissed off about losing the law suit? You're becoming less credible with each post. You might want to have your "good source" do a recount. I think the number is closer to 4, rather than 40.crj_705 wrote:A good source at SKV (Sky Regional) said that they just hired approximately 40 (forty) retired skippers from AC...
Most of these pilots have six-figure ($100,000+) pensions, have sons & daughters at AC, and yet they still think it would be cool to slither into a post retirement job for an extra $70,000 at the expense of their fellow pilots at AC??? Come on silver haired aces...leave the flying to the young fellas who are looking for an upgrade to CA, even though its for a shady sleezy outfit like Sky Regional!!!
Why so outlandish? They will require approximately 150 pilots to operate those Embraers...DBC wrote:Not to say that there won't be some ex-AC guys filling some of those spots, but 40 seems outlandish. I haven't heard any rumors approaching that number at all.
The Raven wrote:crj_705, are you still pissed off about losing the law suit? You're becoming less credible with each post. You might want to have your "good source" do a recount. I think the number is closer to 4, rather than 40.crj_705 wrote:A good source at SKV (Sky Regional) said that they just hired approximately 40 (forty) retired skippers from AC...
Most of these pilots have six-figure ($100,000+) pensions, have sons & daughters at AC, and yet they still think it would be cool to slither into a post retirement job for an extra $70,000 at the expense of their fellow pilots at AC??? Come on silver haired aces...leave the flying to the young fellas who are looking for an upgrade to CA, even though its for a shady sleezy outfit like Sky Regional!!!
Stu Pidasso wrote:There are definately some retired 777 Captains going to Sky Regional - I haven't heard numbers.
These guys reaped the best this industry has ever offered and they whore themselves out in their golden years.
Pathetic - would be the word that comes to mind.
Ok, I'll bite. How have we "stuck it to our elders"?duranium wrote:Considering what has been written here and elsewere, if only partially true, the current aggregate of warm and brilliant minds that comprise ACPA have nothing to whine about. In the last 6 to 7 years, you have stuck it to your elders in so many different ways that it is becoming difficult to keep track.
yycflyguyyycflyguy wrote:Ok, I'll bite. How have we "stuck it to our elders"?duranium wrote:Considering what has been written here and elsewere, if only partially true, the current aggregate of warm and brilliant minds that comprise ACPA have nothing to whine about. In the last 6 to 7 years, you have stuck it to your elders in so many different ways that it is becoming difficult to keep track.
I bet my list of how the junior/new hire pilots have suffered is more comprehensive and reprehensible. Go on, show me your list.
So you're saying the younger generation is experiencing the same thing the older generation experienced? Nothing short of bullshit. I agree with most of your points but the economy and times are very different.duranium wrote:Considering what has been written here and elsewere, if only partially true, the current aggregate of warm and brilliant minds that comprise ACPA have nothing to whine about.
In the last 6 to 7 years, you have stuck it to your elders in so many different ways that it is becoming difficult to keep track. So, if these gents want to continue enjoying what they do, more power to them and for those that have this incredible sense of entitlement that all should flow only to them, too bad as all of you are living in the same real world and this world is VERY different from what your dreams are built upon. As the French say: au plus for la poche.
You don't understand why one generation needs to clear out eventually and pass on the reigns to the next?tallyho wrote:I'm so sick of hearing how 'older pilots' should clear out and make way for 'younger' pilots. I guess I fall into the 'younger' bracket.
If I was a passenger of Sky Regional I'd way rather have ex Air Canada captain running my plane than the whiner who thinks anyone with grey hair, or who has earned more than them should quit to give them a better job. Gimme a break...., your turn will come, either be patient or do something else!
Gravol, the pilots being discussed were forced to retire from AC when they turned 60, Mandatory Retirement for Air Canada pilots is still in effect for the next two weeks. No one this forum has been suggesting that mainline pilots are quitting to fly at Sky Regional.Gravol wrote:Is it just me, or does it seem a little illogical for a nearly retired AC capt to jump back 30 years and fly for 20% the salary with 2% the current lifestyle? Maybe I just don't get it.
TheStig wrote:Gravol, the pilots being discussed were forced to retire from AC when they turned 60, Mandatory Retirement for Air Canada pilots is still in effect for the next two weeks. No one this forum has been suggesting that mainline pilots are quitting to fly at Sky Regional.Gravol wrote:Is it just me, or does it seem a little illogical for a nearly retired AC capt to jump back 30 years and fly for 20% the salary with 2% the current lifestyle? Maybe I just don't get it.
So why are they accepting such pitiful wages?TheStig wrote:I've heard that two retired EMJ Captains are now headed to Sky Regional (but even that could be a rumour?), both had fairly short careers at AC after joining in their 40's and both are class acts who would be an asset to any organization.
Thank you. +1bearinmind wrote:Sky regional is a plague, the people that work there are the reason that the plague is getting worse. if you were a union employee and enjoyed a career and pension earned by your union family, and then leave to work for a non union shop, you have turned you back on your union family. If you set your worth at 6 figures for the last 10 years of your career and then say your are only worth 60k, you just take a job at a decent wage from your younger pilots, you are a plague.
We made an error to allow this to happen and continue to support this error by condoning the people that drive our industry into the dirt. We have lost so much self respect for who we are as pilots that we are willing to allow ACPA pilots to work there in transition, and even train the new plague of 150 pilots that are replacing our hard working junior members. Our association is a joke to allow this to happen. Go ahead and say 'just this once', or its just 15 planes. Its a slow death that we have said is OK, over and over, and its killing our industry.
The reason Sky regional was created was to break Jazz's union. It was so effective they decided to use it on our union. It worked twice.
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