Disengaged????
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Disengaged????
Is nothing happening at this Company???
With the lack of conversation or topics since Nov 12th is it that people are so disengaged and just don't care about Jazz any more??? Have they hit the iceberg and just waiting in the cold frigid waters to see if something good bumps into them???
If memory serves me correctly, didn't AVEOS hit the same iceberg???
Apparently Jazz senior management are the only ones wearing life jackets...
With the lack of conversation or topics since Nov 12th is it that people are so disengaged and just don't care about Jazz any more??? Have they hit the iceberg and just waiting in the cold frigid waters to see if something good bumps into them???
If memory serves me correctly, didn't AVEOS hit the same iceberg???
Apparently Jazz senior management are the only ones wearing life jackets...
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probably because nothing is happening really lately other than I work on X-mas again No news good news? There's a class of new hire about to start line indoc if not already started. That's all I know. Maybe on a Skyregional forum we would hear more rumors
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And they are calling guys for the January 7th course..
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Yes, there is a course starting Jan 2nd and another one in February. 10 people in each class with A/C and bases yet to be determined. Sounds like a little good news to me!
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Well really the new hires are just for attrition due to guys leaving for other airlines, so its just the same old story of the revolving door at the bottom of the seniority list. There is no growth and few retirements so for the majority of the seniority list, there is little change.
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Sounds pretty bleak...what will be the impact of Sky Regional / Westjet Encore on the industry/hiring prospects for new pilots over the next 2 - 3 years?hithere wrote:Well really the new hires are just for attrition due to guys leaving for other airlines, so its just the same old story of the revolving door at the bottom of the seniority list. There is no growth and few retirements so for the majority of the seniority list, there is little change.
There's definitely some hiring going on now due to the latest developments at SR and WJ, but how long will this last? As someone considering entering aviation now, I'm worried the music will long be over by the time I have the requirements to apply at Jazz, WJE, AC, SR...
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No one really knows at this point. Highly doubt it will be a "positive" impactcj555 wrote:Sounds pretty bleak...what will be the impact of Sky Regional / Westjet Encore on the industry/hiring prospects for new pilots over the next 2 - 3 years?
I don't think the music will stop. Not just yet, unless economy goes for a wild dive....off that cliff as media keeps blabbing daily There is sufficient retirements coming at AC and Jazz to keep the bottom moving, which will hopefully move the middle and upper seniority levels.cj555 wrote:There's definitely some hiring going on now due to the latest developments at SR and WJ, but how long will this last? As someone considering entering aviation now, I'm worried the music will long be over by the time I have the requirements to apply at Jazz, WJE, AC, SR...
Time will tell.
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Is Jazz still interviewing or are there enough people in the pool?
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There are more college kids in the latest ground schools plus some from the hiring pool.
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Jazz is still hiring college kids?
Wow. Consider me further disengaged.
Wow. Consider me further disengaged.
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With all these Seneca people getting hired at Jazz I wonder if one day they just might have to hire direct-entry captains...
Prob not but food for thought. (hey that kinda rhymes!)
Prob not but food for thought. (hey that kinda rhymes!)
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I have a question, along the lines of Jazz hiring guys from Seneca College...
Does training at Seneca college (or any accredited aviation diploma program) increase your odds of being hired at Jazz?
For example:
There are two candidates applying at Jazz, each with comparable TT, MPIC time etc, as far as experience / work experience goes they are identical.
However, where/how they trained is different:
Pilot #1 - Trained at Seneca college in the 4 year aviation 'Bachelor of Aviation Technology' program.
Pilot #2 - Completed a 4 year university degree (at a well known university) in a field such as Business/Engineering/Science, and then completed flight training at a local flight school (such as Springbank Air College in Calgary Alberta).
Which candidate would Jazz likely hire?
The advice I have heard is that the Seneca program is an excellent choice for someone who doesn't already have a degree (since airlines look favourably on university degrees). However if you already have a university degree, getting another degree at Seneca would be a waste of time and you'd be better off just going to a local flight school since you can train faster and cheaper.
In this case, I would hope that Jazz would base the decision on the interview since both candidates are so similar, but I still wonder if there is preference based on where/how a pilot did his/her training.
Hoping to get some input from someone involved in hiring at an airline like Jazz.
Does training at Seneca college (or any accredited aviation diploma program) increase your odds of being hired at Jazz?
For example:
There are two candidates applying at Jazz, each with comparable TT, MPIC time etc, as far as experience / work experience goes they are identical.
However, where/how they trained is different:
Pilot #1 - Trained at Seneca college in the 4 year aviation 'Bachelor of Aviation Technology' program.
Pilot #2 - Completed a 4 year university degree (at a well known university) in a field such as Business/Engineering/Science, and then completed flight training at a local flight school (such as Springbank Air College in Calgary Alberta).
Which candidate would Jazz likely hire?
The advice I have heard is that the Seneca program is an excellent choice for someone who doesn't already have a degree (since airlines look favourably on university degrees). However if you already have a university degree, getting another degree at Seneca would be a waste of time and you'd be better off just going to a local flight school since you can train faster and cheaper.
In this case, I would hope that Jazz would base the decision on the interview since both candidates are so similar, but I still wonder if there is preference based on where/how a pilot did his/her training.
Hoping to get some input from someone involved in hiring at an airline like Jazz.
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You might want to check out the following information on the Jazz-Seneca Cadet program...
http://www.senecac.on.ca/collegenews/ar ... tml?page=4
http://www.senecac.on.ca/collegenews/ar ... tml?page=4
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Still always the option of learning how to be a pilot by going up North and being a pilot.
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What ? You mean I have to earn my way into a job ?
Dude that's like so 90's
Nobody does that anymore.
We just go through a quick program and expect the real
and honestly earned experience of the guy sitting to the
left of us to keep us from killing ourselves and everybody
on board.
Yeaaaahhhh
Dude that's like so 90's
Nobody does that anymore.
We just go through a quick program and expect the real
and honestly earned experience of the guy sitting to the
left of us to keep us from killing ourselves and everybody
on board.
Yeaaaahhhh
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Exactly! hahaahahObbie wrote:What ? You mean I have to earn my way into a job ?
Dude that's like so 90's
Nobody does that anymore.
We just go through a quick program and expect the real
and honestly earned experience of the guy sitting to the
left of us to keep us from killing ourselves and everybody
on board.
Yeaaaahhhh