Unfortunately due to lack of cash, flying for a job interview is not possible for me.Career not taking off.
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Career not taking off.
I graduated in the summer of 2004 at the top of my AME 'M' class. I didn't get any job offers in the field so I was forced to take demeaning temporary minimum wage back breaking jobs to pay bills and student loan. I heard Cascade Aerospace was hiring apprentice AME 'M's from my old school and took the whole lot from the spring 2005 graduating class. I zipped back to school to get in touch with my former instructors. Unfortunately the contact at school was an instructor I didn't have, still I was hoping he'd be able to forward my resume to Cascade. However, he told me to apply online and so I did. Well, I got an email reply from them stating that I was NOT qualified for any position. Can anyone tell me how I'm not as qualified as a person from a class that graduated behind me? I can't seem to get any job in the aviation industry, not even cleaning airport toilets. Maybe I'm losing hope but it seems I'm going to be stuck in what are considered high school student summer jobs. Is there anyone out there who could use a hard working AME 'M' apprentice? Unfortunately due to lack of cash, flying for a job interview is not possible for me.
Unfortunately due to lack of cash, flying for a job interview is not possible for me.
Hav you considered phoning up Cascade, asking to speak to some AMEs and picking their brains? Meet fo coffee, bring resume along, show it to them casually and ask who you should give it to...If they don't offer to forward it themselves, at least, you have an "in" contact info...
Online stuff rarely works!!
Good Luck.
Online stuff rarely works!!
Good Luck.
In the business world, the rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield...W. Buffett
Go out there and talk to 'em - get some on coffee break and ask who to speak to - remember they do narrow-body mostly so you might need to be endorsed? While you are out there, check out Conair, there will only be a couple of guys there but you should see one. There is a tanker base there too, next to Cascade, and where there is a T.B., there are mechanics.
Don't expect too much help, you must do it yourself!
Don't expect too much help, you must do it yourself!
"What's it doing now?"
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
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Pat Richard
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While it seems like good advice, getting in to talk to employees at cascade may be hard. Last I looked, they have a gated entrance with a rent-a-cop booth. You can't just stroll up and start chatting.
Having recently given up wrenching on airplanes, I'd suggest looking at other field's if you want to have any hope of a decent living, and paying your loan off before you're 60.
What you're experiencing now is how aviation is. Boom or bust, hire and fire.
Having recently given up wrenching on airplanes, I'd suggest looking at other field's if you want to have any hope of a decent living, and paying your loan off before you're 60.
What you're experiencing now is how aviation is. Boom or bust, hire and fire.
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Rat Richards is correct in that you can't just stroll up and chat with one of the employees anymore. The rent-a-cops will not let you pass if you don't have an employee card which of course someone looking for employment doesn't have. For those advising me to go in person and hand in my resume, yes I have done that and gotten the same results. For example, I went to Habour Air and met the Chief Engineer. We had a little chat and he looked through my resume. Things looked good till the end when he ask me how much experience I had on aircraft. Well, all I have is the stuff we did in school. Then he told me that their crew requirements have all been filled. Then I heard that they hired a guy from the following graduating class for an apprentice position.
Cascade is ALWAYS looking for mechanics. Always. Phone them up, then. Unless your father is Barry Marsden you will have to do the legwork yourself. Your tenacity will do you well in an interview.
Don't forget that Cascade is third-party...
Don't forget that Cascade is third-party...
"What's it doing now?"
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
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Pat Richard
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RL 206 - It's funny, I had the same experience years back, as you are having now.
I'd been out of school for about 3 months, with slow responses from employers. I had done the usual faxing/sending of resumes right when I gradded, but it was slow at the time.
I then hear from from a buddy in the class behind me, that one of the employers, who had stated they were not hiring new apprentices, was at the school, interviewing the class for 3 positions.
So I call up the HR tw*t, and asked in my normal(I'd call her every other week) phone voice if anything had opened up since last time we'ed talked.
Of course she says no, it's still the same. So I ask about the positions they're interviewing for at the school. Silence for a few seconds, the spews out that they're at the school only for a awards banquet, no hiring.
In short, a total load of shit. They did take 3 from the class, none of which I'm happy to say, stayed with them more than a year.
Personally, I would'nt be all that distressed at not being attractive to a company like cascade. They always seem to have/had problems attracting and keeping AME's. So you're not missing much.
My theory for there actions is that they want "fresh" grads, right out of school. 3 month's out, in their world, seems to be less than desireable.
That's compounded by the sheer quantity of newbs the schools are pounding out. They have lots to choose from.
Not to say it's hopeless for you. Like I said, I went through a very similar experience, and made out quite well(from an aviation perspective)despite the idiotic mindsets encountered.
I just don't think it was worth it, and would not do it over again if I was given the option
Good luck,
Pat
I'd been out of school for about 3 months, with slow responses from employers. I had done the usual faxing/sending of resumes right when I gradded, but it was slow at the time.
I then hear from from a buddy in the class behind me, that one of the employers, who had stated they were not hiring new apprentices, was at the school, interviewing the class for 3 positions.
So I call up the HR tw*t, and asked in my normal(I'd call her every other week) phone voice if anything had opened up since last time we'ed talked.
Of course she says no, it's still the same. So I ask about the positions they're interviewing for at the school. Silence for a few seconds, the spews out that they're at the school only for a awards banquet, no hiring.
In short, a total load of shit. They did take 3 from the class, none of which I'm happy to say, stayed with them more than a year.
Personally, I would'nt be all that distressed at not being attractive to a company like cascade. They always seem to have/had problems attracting and keeping AME's. So you're not missing much.
My theory for there actions is that they want "fresh" grads, right out of school. 3 month's out, in their world, seems to be less than desireable.
That's compounded by the sheer quantity of newbs the schools are pounding out. They have lots to choose from.
Not to say it's hopeless for you. Like I said, I went through a very similar experience, and made out quite well(from an aviation perspective)despite the idiotic mindsets encountered.
I just don't think it was worth it, and would not do it over again if I was given the option
Good luck,
Pat
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xsbank's suggestion of calling them doesn't seem to work in today's voice mail age. Get voice message all the time leaving them a message but no reply. Thanks Pat. I though that I'm the only one that has this problem. Cascade is not the only company that I've applied to and gotten nada as a result of using job searching techniques. Just wondering if calling every two weeks too agressive in my job search. I've heard from friends that human resource / recruiters have been know to blacklist you for bothering them too much and therefore any application you send them gets file in file cabinet 13 (the garbage can).
Well I hate to be a complete pessimist when it comes to finding work in Aviation. As being out of work for a lengthy period of time, it has made me decide that this isn't worth it and hung up my tools.
There is work out there and most likely you will have to move.
Just remember, if you don't love what you are doing, you'll never be happy no matter where you work.
There is work out there and most likely you will have to move.
Just remember, if you don't love what you are doing, you'll never be happy no matter where you work.
Ducky, your statement "Just remember, if you don't love what you are doing, you'll never be happy no matter where you work." is so true. I in fact really enjoyed that stuff I did in school and looked foward to it every morning. It's just trying to get started in the industry that sucks. I hate to give up but sometimes you have to admit defeat and move on. I just hope that I don't get to that stage too soon.
