Your hard earned tax dollars at work. Although Deluce is still not discarding having some kind of service out of the island airport. My guess, and I wish it wasn't so, is that the Toronto Island Airport will be shut down within a few years. A great asset wasted to buy votes.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... al/Toronto
Feds pay $35 million to not build $22 million bridge to YTZ
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So David Miller is proud that we Canadians had to cough up $35 million for the Port Authority and a financial settlement to Robert Deluce. Well I must say thanks "Dave" let us know if we can give anymore our money, and he wonders why Bombardier didn't want to build in Toronto! The dolt.
Rectum, damn near killed 'em
And meanwhile AC plods up and down with a DH1 and rakes in the downtown money. Then they threaten jets just before the election. What Miller never reminds anyone is that a majority voted for Hall and Tory combined, both supporters of the YTZ expansion. A ready made reliever with approaches over water and instead we're going to pave over Pickering.
Pity there's no equivalent to flybe willing to have a crack at them, even with DH3s. There was always a question mark over whether the Q400 could make it in and out with significant performance penalties - that village idiot Sparrow used to regularly claim so anyway.
Pity there's no equivalent to flybe willing to have a crack at them, even with DH3s. There was always a question mark over whether the Q400 could make it in and out with significant performance penalties - that village idiot Sparrow used to regularly claim so anyway.
The initial installations for Deluce's airline, ie. offices etc. are already being setup. He has been around the island lately. I think his operation will be running by may 06. Meanwhile Torontonians got duped by Miller, the island squatters, the million dollar condo owners and the media into paying mr. deluce so that he wouldn't sue the city for 150 million for breach of contract.
You know how much money that island is worth to real estate developers and in property taxes to the gov't? I'm sure Miller and the local and provincial goverments are drooling at the prospect of reeling in all that cash...
The feds are slowly killing the place. The other week I was there on a charter and found out that the island is now closing at 2130 instead of 2300. I overheard a couple of guys who came to the island in their cessna from Chicago for dinner talking to the csr. They couldn't go eat becuase there was no way they would make it back in time so they left probably never to come back.
Just an example of how they are driving people away.
The feds are slowly killing the place. The other week I was there on a charter and found out that the island is now closing at 2130 instead of 2300. I overheard a couple of guys who came to the island in their cessna from Chicago for dinner talking to the csr. They couldn't go eat becuase there was no way they would make it back in time so they left probably never to come back.
Just an example of how they are driving people away.
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bridge
lets see the brainchild of this.
A FAMILY MEMBER IS IN SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION
AFTER HITTIN A MOOSE ON A NORTHERN ONTARIO HIGHWAY.
MEDIVAC . BUT BECAUSE SOME IDIOT SITTING IN HIS BEACHES CONDO VOTED ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER NIMBYS TO CLOSE
THE FRICKIN ISLAND AIRPORT AT 945 PM.
WHICH RESULTS IN A EXTRA 25MIN LAND AMBULANCE DRIVE FROM BUTTONVILLE. LATER THAT DAY THE PATIENT DIES IN HOSPITAL
WOULD 25 MIN MADE A DIFFERENCE WE WILL NEVER KNOW BUT IF IT WAS YOUR CHILD. ???????????????
SLEEP WELL DAVID MILLER BECAUSE THIS DID HAPPEN
A FAMILY MEMBER IS IN SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION
AFTER HITTIN A MOOSE ON A NORTHERN ONTARIO HIGHWAY.
MEDIVAC . BUT BECAUSE SOME IDIOT SITTING IN HIS BEACHES CONDO VOTED ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER NIMBYS TO CLOSE
THE FRICKIN ISLAND AIRPORT AT 945 PM.
WHICH RESULTS IN A EXTRA 25MIN LAND AMBULANCE DRIVE FROM BUTTONVILLE. LATER THAT DAY THE PATIENT DIES IN HOSPITAL
WOULD 25 MIN MADE A DIFFERENCE WE WILL NEVER KNOW BUT IF IT WAS YOUR CHILD. ???????????????
SLEEP WELL DAVID MILLER BECAUSE THIS DID HAPPEN
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Why can`t these bleeding heart tree hugging liberals, that call Toronto island their home, realize that, some of these jets ie; CL65 are much quieter than those chainsaw Dash 8`s. Yeah, I can see it now, Toronto builds the bridge and there are hordes of people lined up every morning to cross over to the airport, just like standing in line waiting to purchase U2 tickets. Toronto will always be stuck in the past. By the way, were is all that money the federal, provincal and municiple governments promised to revitilize the water front? What an embarressment. Go jump in that sespool they call Lake Ontario Miller, and take those dipshit islanders with you! 
Boeing just does it better!
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I think it was about 25 years ago now that the CEO of Black and Decker arrived at YTZ with plans to build a B&D factory up here. Poor guy didn't know his Cessna Citation was a forbidden aircraft because it didn't have props. They fined the poor guy $10,000 & TO never did get the factory.
The stupidity surrounding YTZ is now legendary. If they want a quiet airport they should ban props!
What Richard Daily did at Meigs Field was criminal. He came at night with bulldozers while the fields fate was still in the hands of the court and tore up the runways. The aircraft trapped at the field had to seek FAA permission to depart off the taxiways. Do you think he (Daily) was in Toronto telling the mayor how to do it?
The stupidity surrounding YTZ is now legendary. If they want a quiet airport they should ban props!
What Richard Daily did at Meigs Field was criminal. He came at night with bulldozers while the fields fate was still in the hands of the court and tore up the runways. The aircraft trapped at the field had to seek FAA permission to depart off the taxiways. Do you think he (Daily) was in Toronto telling the mayor how to do it?
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Well let's see....Toronto finally had a Police Chief the public loved and who was far more popular than the Mayor....so the mayor gets rid of him and says " change is good " I mean who really cares if the people of Toronto like the police service ?
David Miller spends hundreds of millions of dollars to prevent people from creataing a bridge which in turn would spark new job growth not only for the building of the bridge, but for the aircraft company, airline, new services, tourism etc...
I think David Miller's track record pretty much sucks and he said it best when he said " change is good "
He needs go.... and preferably on the end of someones boot or locked up for taking bribes to screw us over.
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David Miller spends hundreds of millions of dollars to prevent people from creataing a bridge which in turn would spark new job growth not only for the building of the bridge, but for the aircraft company, airline, new services, tourism etc...
I think David Miller's track record pretty much sucks and he said it best when he said " change is good "
He needs go.... and preferably on the end of someones boot or locked up for taking bribes to screw us over.
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Sometimes I think it's a shame when I get feelin' better when I'm feelin no pain.
Port Authority sues Community Air
It had to happen eventually I suppose.
http://www.thetorontobulletin.com/Downl ... s_back.pdf
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... /HYOntario
http://www.communityair.org/Press_Cover ... -Touby.pdf
Here's another interesting tidbit - from David Miller's 2003 campaign contributions:
William Freeman $100
Allan Sparrow $300
Brian Iler $500
Pam Mazza $250
This is the list of lawsuit defendants:
Community Air Impact Review, William Freeman, John Bessai, Pam Mazza, Jerry Shiner, Robert Stacey, Allan Will, Brian Iler
http://www.thetorontobulletin.com/Downl ... s_back.pdf
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... /HYOntario
http://torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGT ... 44714.htmlPort Authority's cynical SLAPP aimed at silencing its critics
JOHN BARBER
SLAPP -- Take that! SLAPP -- Shut up! SLAPP -- Pay out!
No political Punch and Judy show worthy of its name -- certainly nothing that involves that skulking and drivelling institutional miscreant known as the Toronto Port Authority -- should proceed without a good Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation these days. Accordingly the TPA, ever the innovator in dirty politics, has now introduced this brazen U.S. tactic north of the border by launching a $6.8-million lawsuit against the civic gadflies who have dared to criticize its efforts to reindustrialize the Toronto waterfront.
Claiming that the group Community AIR and seven of its directors are "zealous and unbalanced" in their waterfront advocacy, the suit demands that each pay $500,000 in damages for defamation, $250,000 in aggravated damages and another $100,000 in punitive damages to the port authority, its president Lisa Raitt and two others.
The lawsuit also demands an injunction preventing the volunteer activists from making any more allegedly defamatory statements about the federal agency -- a category of speech, according to the wide-open statement of claim the authority filed in court last week, that would seem to include every public statement any of the activists has ever made in this hotly contested, thoroughly aired, public debate.
After failing in its attempt to placate the federal authoritarians by retracting a few of the more fiery comments published on the Community AIR website -- nothing that hasn't been said at a dozen public meetings, or published in more carefully vetted form in this newspaper and others -- the activists are preparing to defend what could be an extremely expensive suit.
"We see this primarily as an effort to shut us up -- and that's not going to happen," said Brian Iler, a lawyer named as one of the defendants. "We will persist."
Writing to TPA lawyer Trisha Jackson of Torys LLP last month, Community AIR lawyer Louis Sokolov denounced the lawsuit as "a transparently tactical use of legal process aimed at chilling legitimate public discourse," adding that its timing, coincidental with a federal review of the authority's dubious activities, is "particularly suspect."
"If ever there were a time for the port authority to attempt to silence its critics," Mr. Sokolov wrote, "this would be it."
Undaunted, Ms. Jackson replied that the authority was determined to sue the group for its "unfounded and defamatory rhetoric" and "invective."
But it would be awfully difficult for any ordinary person to find $7-million in damages in the allegedly defamatory statements the lawsuit targeted. They are all contained in a Community AIR memo that sums up the issue with the predictable spin usually applied by port authority critics, presenting it in terms the entire city has heard again and again. Edited as Community AIR offered to do, it is positively anodyne.
In other words, there is no question that this suit is nothing more than a hollow and cynical SLAPP, "in which a corporation or developer sues an organization in an attempt to scare it into dropping protests against a corporate initiative," according to one definition.
Many U.S. states have adopted anti-SLAPP measures that permit wide-ranging debate about issues of legitimate public concern and can be used to derail such suits before they get rolling. Two Ontario courts recently made baby steps in the same direction when they ruled that governments cannot sue for defamation -- potentially important precedents when a federal agency singles out its enemies for the same alleged wrongdoing. But nothing can stop it from using your money to try -- just as it uses your money to sue other governments, lobby shamelessly and issue soft-soap propaganda about its alleged good works.
If ever there was a time to support Community AIR, this would be it.
jbarber@globeandmail.com
http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/story/to-lawsuit20060621.htmlCitizens group sued
Port authority claims defamation
By ROB GRANATSTEIN, CITY HALL BUREAU
Toronto Port Authority executives, sick of being battered by a waterfront residents group, have struck back with a $3.4-million lawsuit.
The defamation lawsuit against Community Air, a group of well-organized waterfront citizens opposed to the City Centre airport and how it is being run, cites a number of articles posted to the group's website starting in March.
"We are not going to allow untruths and personal attacks to go unchallenged," TPACEO Lisa Raitt said yesterday.
The Community Air website claimed the island airport is obsolete, unsafe for high volume commercial air service, and the scandal-plagued TPA is impeding waterfront revitalization.
"The Port Authority [has declined] into little more than a disreputable pork barrel for its directors and management," a memo on the group's website, and sent to federal Transportation Minister Lawrence Cannon, states.
Louis Sokolov, lawyer for Community Air, said the group will vigorously defend the TPA lawsuit, but it just received the lawsuit and a response has not yet been filed.
"The allegations are absolutely without merit," Sokolov said. "It's extremely disturbing that this kind of lawsuit, that in our opinion is nothing more than an attempt to muzzle public criticism about these important issues, is being brought."
Mayor David Miller slammed the lawsuit.
"It's outrageous,"Miller said. "Government agencies shouldn't sue citizens who are exercising their right of free speech.
"It shows, once again, how unaccountable and out of touch the Toronto Port Authority really is," he said.
http://www.communityair.org/Press_Cover ... -Touby.pdf
Here's another interesting tidbit - from David Miller's 2003 campaign contributions:
William Freeman $100
Allan Sparrow $300
Brian Iler $500
Pam Mazza $250
This is the list of lawsuit defendants:
Community Air Impact Review, William Freeman, John Bessai, Pam Mazza, Jerry Shiner, Robert Stacey, Allan Will, Brian Iler
LANDING FEE SUMMER HOLIDAY AT TORONTO CITY CENTRE AIRPORT!!
COPA President Kevin Psutka asked Toronto City Centre Airport to do something about their landing fees - and they listened!
For the summer of 2006 (1 June - 31 August) landing fees are waived for COPA members only who land at TCCA with aircraft up to 3,000kg (6600 lbs). Just show your COPA membership card at either FBO, ESSO FBO Services 416-351-1100 123.2 MHz or City Centre Aviation Shell 416-203-2424 123.35 MHz to qualify for the free landing.
Drop in and see the upgrades underway at the airport, including construction for the new ferry, and have lunch in the historic terminal building!
There is lots more information including photos of this convenient airport on COPA's Places to Fly.
COPA President Kevin Psutka asked Toronto City Centre Airport to do something about their landing fees - and they listened!
For the summer of 2006 (1 June - 31 August) landing fees are waived for COPA members only who land at TCCA with aircraft up to 3,000kg (6600 lbs). Just show your COPA membership card at either FBO, ESSO FBO Services 416-351-1100 123.2 MHz or City Centre Aviation Shell 416-203-2424 123.35 MHz to qualify for the free landing.
Drop in and see the upgrades underway at the airport, including construction for the new ferry, and have lunch in the historic terminal building!
There is lots more information including photos of this convenient airport on COPA's Places to Fly.
