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Hey, MCRIT, and Dash-Ate, Tim Bosma was friends with a lot of my friends in Burlington, even though I didn't know him myself I would say his only mistake was trying to sell his truck and having the bad fortune to run into Mr. Millard and his buddy. If drugs were involved, I'm pretty sure it didn't have anything to do with Tim.
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An internet forum is supposed to be full of speculation and rumour. It appears some people are expecting a scientific and philosophical dissection and analysis of facts on an internet forum. Geez! One of the most popular pilot forums in the world is called "Professional Pilot's Rumour Network",(PPRuNE).
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Begs the question...Why murder a man for a used pickup truck? Dellen Millard was born with a silver spoon.imarai wrote:An internet forum is supposed to be full of speculation and rumour. It appears some people are expecting a scientific and philosophical dissection and analysis of facts on an internet forum. Geez! One of the most popular pilot forums in the world is called "Professional Pilot's Rumour Network",(PPRuNE).
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DM may have been born into money and an aviation business, but we don't know how well he has managed it. If he's as rich as reported, he could buy any truck he wanted from a dealer instead of looking on Kijiji. Anyway, the investigation is far from over. There's another suspect still at large (his Baja co-driver would be my guess) and maybe DM isn't even the main perp. Hope we find out more from the 2:30 news conference.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... e11907415/oldyellr wrote:DM may have been born into money and an aviation business, but we don't know how well he has managed it. If he's as rich as reported, he could buy any truck he wanted from a dealer instead of looking on Kijiji. Anyway, the investigation is far from over. There's another suspect still at large (his Baja co-driver would be my guess) and maybe DM isn't even the main perp. Hope we find out more from the 2:30 news conference.
Police officers on Tuesday were searching a large rural property in Ayr, south of Kitchener, that records show Mr. Millard bought two years ago for $835,000.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener ... stery.html
"He's a very unassuming, humble person. He's intelligent, well-educated and financially well off, so there's no motive here," Paradkar said, adding his client has no prior history of crime.

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Meatservo, that was the point I was trying to make to Dash when he implied this might be some sort of drug deal. Sorry if it came off like I was bad mouthing the victim; nothing could be farther from my intent.Meatservo wrote:Hey, MCRIT, and Dash-Ate, Tim Bosma was friends with a lot of my friends in Burlington, even though I didn't know him myself I would say his only mistake was trying to sell his truck and having the bad fortune to run into Mr. Millard and his buddy. If drugs were involved, I'm pretty sure it didn't have anything to do with Tim.
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Millard is now looking down the barrel of a first degree murder charge. Bye bye family fortune!
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Ya, well, unfortunately Canadian law seems to be largely influenced by fortune.
There's no punishment too cruel for those found guilty. Even death would be too easy.
There's no punishment too cruel for those found guilty. Even death would be too easy.
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I guess what I am saying is there's a chance the accused blew his loot on a habit and went to steal this poor guy's truck and he put up a fight. Again if the motive is not money then I mentioned the other choice.
Will there ever be justice when you've lost a son/brother/husband especially at young age? Not much.
Will there ever be justice when you've lost a son/brother/husband especially at young age? Not much.

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A point on which we agree.Dash-Ate wrote: Will there ever be justice when you've lost a son/brother/husband especially at young age?
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Driving Rain wrote: Police officers on Tuesday were searching a large rural property in Ayr, south of Kitchener
Haha, what a funny name for a town (if youre Arabic).
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There are so many speculations on motive since he seems to be well off. I will bet that he and others were running a chop shop. The accused owns a Dodge Ram 3500, they test drove another man's Dodge 3500 and then Tim Bosma's 3500. They were obviously on the hunt for a Dodge Ram 3500. My best guess will be that Dellen's Dodge needed a drivetrain or something and that's why they were out searching for the same type of truck. Being that these guys race Baja , they would put on a ton of miles , so I suspect this is their motive.
The police even said when they test drove the first truck, they acted weird , and that truck owner was a big guy who could have taken on both suspects. I'll bet that these guys took Tim's truck on a test drive and that they planned on stealing it , got into a battle with Tim and things got escalated which led to his death.
Whatever happened, I'm glad to see the charges have been upgraded to first degree murder.... now hopefully they can find the other cowards soon and bring them to justice.
The police even said when they test drove the first truck, they acted weird , and that truck owner was a big guy who could have taken on both suspects. I'll bet that these guys took Tim's truck on a test drive and that they planned on stealing it , got into a battle with Tim and things got escalated which led to his death.
Whatever happened, I'm glad to see the charges have been upgraded to first degree murder.... now hopefully they can find the other cowards soon and bring them to justice.
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Dellen Millard, the man charged by Hamilton police in connection with the disappearance of Tim Bosma, whose remains have now been found, made headlines in 1999, with a story fitting for a teenager from an aviation family.
On his 14th birthday, Millard became the youngest Canadian to pilot solo both a helicopter and an airplane on the same day.
Outpouring of grief and condolences for the Bosma family
Millard's grandfather, Carl, was a Canadian aviation legend. He started his own charter airline in 1954, Rob Seaman wrote in Wings Magazine in 2005. Before that, Carl had been a pilot for Tran-Canada Airlines, which became Air Canada.
Millard also told Seaman that he was "a direct descendant of Chief Joseph Brant," the Mohawk leader who aided the British forces during the American Revolution in the mid-1700s.
Millard Air was incorporated in 1963 and eventually had a fleet of 21 planes. The charter airline was based at Toronto's main airport, operating until it went into bankruptcy in 1990.
Later, the Millard family owned an aircraft servicing and maintenance company, also based at Toronto's Pearson International Airport. Carl died in 2006 and his son Wayne, took over the business.
Before he died in December 2012, Wayne was starting up Millardair MRO, described as "a new provider for aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul service." It was based at Waterloo International Airport in Ontario and had the largest hangar at the airport, with plans to employ 40 to 90 people, Canadian Skies magazine reported at the time.
In his father's obituary which appeared in the Toronto Star, Dellen wrote: "For father piloting wasn't just his job, it was his freedom."
Wayne had learned to fly when he was five, sitting in his father's lap. Wayne's son, Dellen, also learned about flying when he was young but only began formal flying lessons in the months before his record flights.
The day after setting that record, the 14-year-old told CTV News, "It was just incredible flying alone. You look over at the seat and there's nobody there."
"It felt great and free. You can do anything up there," Dellen added. At the time, he was a student at the Toronto French School.
Dellen has flying in his background on his mother's side, too. Madeleine Burns is a former Air Canada flight attendant. (On Sunday, in Kleinburg, police found a trailer, containing a black pickup truck, in Burns's driveway.)
When he was 21, Wayne told the Toronto Star that Dellen wanted to start a helicopter business.
In 2011, Dellen, along with co-driver Andrew Michalski competed in the Baja 500 desert off-road race in Mexico. Michalski's Facebook page has photos of him and Dellen working on the bright yellow jeep before the race. The photos were taken at an airport hangar.
On Friday, police arrested Millard "without incident while driving" in Mississauga, Ont. Initially Millard, 27, was charged with forcible confinement and theft over $5,000." On Tuesday afternoon, Matt Kavanaugh, Hamilton Police's lead investigator on the case, told a media conference that Millard will be charged with murder.
Kinsella said that police believe Millard was the driver in a test-drive in Toronto that had similarities to the one that led to Bosma's disappearance. "Millard is the suspect with the 'Ambition' tattoo," Kinsella added, referring to the word on his wrist.
Millard's lawyer, Deepak Paradkar, told CBC News his client isn't the type of person to commit such crimes.
"He's a very unassuming, humble person. He's intelligent, well-educated and financially well off, so there's no motive here," Paradkar said.
"He's never had a brush with law, never been to jail," Paradkhar added.
On his 14th birthday, Millard became the youngest Canadian to pilot solo both a helicopter and an airplane on the same day.
Outpouring of grief and condolences for the Bosma family
Millard's grandfather, Carl, was a Canadian aviation legend. He started his own charter airline in 1954, Rob Seaman wrote in Wings Magazine in 2005. Before that, Carl had been a pilot for Tran-Canada Airlines, which became Air Canada.
Millard also told Seaman that he was "a direct descendant of Chief Joseph Brant," the Mohawk leader who aided the British forces during the American Revolution in the mid-1700s.
Millard Air was incorporated in 1963 and eventually had a fleet of 21 planes. The charter airline was based at Toronto's main airport, operating until it went into bankruptcy in 1990.
Later, the Millard family owned an aircraft servicing and maintenance company, also based at Toronto's Pearson International Airport. Carl died in 2006 and his son Wayne, took over the business.
Before he died in December 2012, Wayne was starting up Millardair MRO, described as "a new provider for aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul service." It was based at Waterloo International Airport in Ontario and had the largest hangar at the airport, with plans to employ 40 to 90 people, Canadian Skies magazine reported at the time.
In his father's obituary which appeared in the Toronto Star, Dellen wrote: "For father piloting wasn't just his job, it was his freedom."
Wayne had learned to fly when he was five, sitting in his father's lap. Wayne's son, Dellen, also learned about flying when he was young but only began formal flying lessons in the months before his record flights.
The day after setting that record, the 14-year-old told CTV News, "It was just incredible flying alone. You look over at the seat and there's nobody there."
"It felt great and free. You can do anything up there," Dellen added. At the time, he was a student at the Toronto French School.
Dellen has flying in his background on his mother's side, too. Madeleine Burns is a former Air Canada flight attendant. (On Sunday, in Kleinburg, police found a trailer, containing a black pickup truck, in Burns's driveway.)
When he was 21, Wayne told the Toronto Star that Dellen wanted to start a helicopter business.
In 2011, Dellen, along with co-driver Andrew Michalski competed in the Baja 500 desert off-road race in Mexico. Michalski's Facebook page has photos of him and Dellen working on the bright yellow jeep before the race. The photos were taken at an airport hangar.
On Friday, police arrested Millard "without incident while driving" in Mississauga, Ont. Initially Millard, 27, was charged with forcible confinement and theft over $5,000." On Tuesday afternoon, Matt Kavanaugh, Hamilton Police's lead investigator on the case, told a media conference that Millard will be charged with murder.
Kinsella said that police believe Millard was the driver in a test-drive in Toronto that had similarities to the one that led to Bosma's disappearance. "Millard is the suspect with the 'Ambition' tattoo," Kinsella added, referring to the word on his wrist.
Millard's lawyer, Deepak Paradkar, told CBC News his client isn't the type of person to commit such crimes.
"He's a very unassuming, humble person. He's intelligent, well-educated and financially well off, so there's no motive here," Paradkar said.
"He's never had a brush with law, never been to jail," Paradkhar added.
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Does anyone know what led police to Dellen Millard in the first place?
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Cell phone records. The guy in Etobicoke who was visited by the suspects the day prior to Bosma's abduction also described a tattoo that Millard has on his wrist.jeta1 wrote:Does anyone know what led police to Dellen Millard in the first place?
He sure doesn't sound half as smart as his lawyer says he is.
Edit: apparently a portable incinerator was found on the farm they were searching today.
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Scumbag charged with 1st degree murder today. This should just about finish the Millard name for good.
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What a naive comment. Being well-off, well educated and intelligent has nothing to do with criminal intentions. Is he saying being poor and under educated is a prescription for criminal behavior? What a douche!
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He's just laying out the case in the court of public opinion for the media. I happens all the time.
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This is a very important part of the puzzle that is being under reported and under discussed. I happened to catch the Q&A with the Police Chief from Hamilton, and he stated exactly what Quad18star said above. They were going to steal the 1st truck, but the man was 6'4" and 280 lbs (according to the cop). He stated they realized they were in over their heads with him and sought out a "softer" target. Once they arrived at Tim`s home, they likely nodded at each other that this was the target. They probably didnt believe they would kill anyone...just beat him up, tie him up, and steal the truck. It would have been chopped in a matter of hours and no numbers to be found anywhere.Quad18star wrote:The police even said when they test drove the first truck, they acted weird , and that truck owner was a big guy who could have taken on both suspects. I'll bet that these guys took Tim's truck on a test drive and that they planned on stealing it , got into a battle with Tim and things got escalated which led to his death.
I think these entitled kids thought that BECAUSE they came from wealth, that gave them the "right" to steal whatever they wanted. Maybe Mom said no to the 15 K they needed for his truck and they decided that it would be easy and maybe even (fun) to steal a truck.
I agree this just likely got way outta hand and Tim fought back far harder than they anticipated. Once they had killed him (maybe not meaning to...but a blow to the head and that could have been all it took), they may have paniced and decided to try to burn the body? Who knows what the real truth will turn out to be, but it cant help but feel complete sadness for Tim`s wife and small child. This senseless act cost so many people for the rest of their lives.
My thoughts are PURE speculation and not intended to ruffle any feathers. Its just my take on what I have seen on the TV, read online, and heard from people that live there about this crazy/sad murder case.
My most sincere condolences to Tim Bosma`s family & friends. I know 2 people that also knew him in Burlington...and he was apparently a truly good man.
Fly safe all. FTB
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Yup...Just ask Bernie Madoff, Conrad Black, OJ Simpson just to name a few. I agree.imarai wrote:What a naive comment. Being well-off, well educated and intelligent has nothing to do with criminal intentions. Is he saying being poor and under educated is a prescription for criminal behavior? What a douche!
However, the statistics of people in prison weigh heavily towards those living in poverty, as they are more often the ones that become addicted to street drugs etc to escape their reality. That leads to committing crimes to support their habits and voila they are in jail. There are alot of rich, well educated criminals walking the streets (Wall St, Bay St, you`ll find plenty in either place everyday.) Money does make a difference as money can buy your freedom. Again, ask OJ and Mr. Black. (Oh and I believe Mr. Black will retain his Order of Canada...ahhhh gotta love democracy!)
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Absolutely flyinthebug.
The truck theft gone wrong certainly seems plausible. Maybe they had enough money but, why pay for something you can just take? That's no way to stay ahead financially. Who cares about the owner? He'll get paid from the insurance company.
The human brain is a strange potentially frail or resilient thing. These guys probably watched lot's of MMA where guys get a bad beating and they are fine after. Maybe they had beat up other people before. Sometimes a pretty minor blow to the head in just the right spot will leave a person dead.
The truck theft gone wrong certainly seems plausible. Maybe they had enough money but, why pay for something you can just take? That's no way to stay ahead financially. Who cares about the owner? He'll get paid from the insurance company.
The human brain is a strange potentially frail or resilient thing. These guys probably watched lot's of MMA where guys get a bad beating and they are fine after. Maybe they had beat up other people before. Sometimes a pretty minor blow to the head in just the right spot will leave a person dead.
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I can't help being reminded of an old English saying....Rags to Rags it 3 generation.
Rags to rags in three generations
Possible interpretation: The first generation in a family makes money (goes from rags to riches); the second generation holds or keeps the money; and the third generation squanders or loses the money (and so goes back to rags).
Rags to rags in three generations
Possible interpretation: The first generation in a family makes money (goes from rags to riches); the second generation holds or keeps the money; and the third generation squanders or loses the money (and so goes back to rags).