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http://www.vancouversun.com/news/nation ... story.html

Pilot accused of shooting up helicopter at remote B.C. mining camp


BY THE CANADIAN PRESS JULY 18, 2013 10:03 PM



DEAS LAKE, B.C. - The RCMP say a 37-year-old pilot is expected to appear in a B.C. court in August for allegedly shooting up a helicopter at a remote mining camp.

The incident took place early July 12 in the Klappan Mountain area, which is about 103 kilometres southeast of the community of Deas Lake, B.C.

Police say the Ontario resident was armed with a shotgun and safety flares and rode an ATV up and down the camp airstrip.

They say witnesses reported he fired the weapon several times at the helicopter and tried to light it on fire.

Police say the man had no previous signs of distress and are describing the incident as a "severe emotional breakdown."

They say he was disarmed by people at the camp before his arrest and is expected to appear in a Deas Lake court Aug. 27 on a proposed charge of mischief.

"We are certainly thankful that no one was injured during this incident and thankful that others at the camp had the mindfulness to seize an opportunity and safely disarm the man," said RCMP Cpl. Dan Moskaluk in a media release.



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I heard about this today, but with a slightly more bat-excrement-crazy slant;

Source: http://www.mwpr.ca/show11259a0x300y1z/S ... _MAN_CRAZY

Late last week a helicopter pilot from Lakelse Air was possibly infected by the ancient Spirits of the Tahltan and Gitxsan. He picked up a shotgun and as he proclaimed this was the ‘end of the world’ began shooting at his helicopter and then engaged in a gun battle with others working to disrupt the Klappan, the source of the water for all the northwest rivers; the source of all life.

Although no one we contacted from Lakelse Air wished to discuss the incident, or wished to go on record, the details were confirmed.

And it was a gun battle, as described by one anonymous source calling it a shootout at the OK Fortune Mine.

Fortune Minerals has renamed their proposed Coal Mine at the Klappan, the Sacred Headwaters of the Stikine, Nass and Skeena Rivers from the Klappan Project to the Arctos Project as they realized the sensitivity of the Klappan region and the associated name would spark more attention and resistance.

All three major rivers have the Klappan Mountain, the site of the incident, as the primary source of their waters.

The pilot reportedly did two specific things. He started the helicopter in a situation called a hot start, with the cowling covers still in place and fried a very expensive turbine as he shot at the helicopter repeatedly. He then turned his gun towards the crews on the ground.

They then gathered their guns and began shooting back.

It was a scene out of a western movie as bullets were flying.

The last report we received described how the pilot then went towards the bunkhouse rooms and when he tripped a junior apprentice engineer was able to get the gun away and others then tackled him. They wrapped him in Duct tape to secure him.

Calls to Lakelse Air staff confirmed there was an incident but they refused to discuss the details. A call to the owner has yet been responded to.

The Klappan is the most Sacred of territories to the Indigenous peoples of Northwest BC, the Sacred Circle.

The Tahltan and the Gitxsan have been steadfast in their combined opposition to any activity disturbing the region.

One man going nuts is just a canary in the mineshaft. Either the only people who would dare to destroy the peaceful pure waters and environment of the Sacred Circle are crazy or those who participate will go crazy, as did the Officer from Winnipeg, Manitoba who shot John Joseph Harper. Either way, the Mine and the individuals involved are making every effort to ensure this story does not see the light of day.
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My initial reaction was, "Pilot shoots flying machine? That guy needs to be punished!"

After reading the story I have more empathy. Obviously he completely lost his mind.

Maybe he was even,
infected by the ancient Spirits of the Tahltan and Gitxsan.

Sounds horribly sad. This is one of those cases where the poor guy needs to be put in a loony bin instead of jail. I'm usually against that.

Any word on wether he was "infected by the spirits of" say, Jim Beam or maybe Jack Daniels?
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I'm not sure but I think shooting helicopters after dark and on the ground violates your hunting license. In any event it is very unsporting.
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What's the bag limit on helicopters in BC? :)
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STL! Say it ain't so?
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xsbank wrote:STL! Say it ain't so?
When I heard about it, I was about start a thread titled "STL takes early retirement."
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He said he was going for a holiday. :shock:

I hope it's some other guy. Quit being a bad influence on me.
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Beefitarian wrote:He said he was going for a holiday. :shock:
That whole "What shall we call real pilots like me?" issue must have been the last straw.
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CamAero wrote:
Beefitarian wrote:He said he was going for a holiday. :shock:
That whole "What shall we call real pilots like me?" issue must have been the last straw.
Now that was funny! :lol:

On the upside, we now have a new application for duct tape - restraining over-the-edge fling-wing pilots.
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YYZSaabGuy wrote:
CamAero wrote:
Beefitarian wrote:He said he was going for a holiday. :shock:
That whole "What shall we call real pilots like me?" issue must have been the last straw.
Now that was funny! :lol:

On the upside, we now have a new application for duct tape - restraining over-the-edge fling-wing pilots.
If you did that, we wouldn't have fling wingers left.
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It's a delicate task, letting them run free while they're crazy enough to fly rotary aircraft but duct taping them before they shoot rotary aircraft.
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On the upside, we now have a new application for duct tape - restraining over-the-edge fling-wing pilots.
It's a use Red Green never thought of, for sure.
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I am glad all of you are having a chuckle at someone else’s expense. I am not sure how many of you have ever worked around helicopters. What I can tell you is the helicopter pilots I have worked around are a talented bunch of individuals working under a pile of stress every day. Doing things like hanging out the door at 100 feet over a 3 million dollar twin otter slinging a drill in a door with inches on each side so some fixed wing pilot doesn’t have to break their balls lifting and pulling. The list goes on with the things these guys are asked to do while on a 100’ long line and operating in what is called dead mans curve for hours on end day after day. I could go on but i think you get the picture. Maybe we can keep in mind this is some ones son, father or friend. Below was posted by the company this pilot worked for on the vertical forum.

As i'm sure that most people in the Canadian helicopter industry have heard, a pilot had a severe emotional breakdown in a camp in Northern BC. The pilot worked for Lakelse Air and is a good friend of mine. He is a high time pilot and very talented on a longline. 
Before everyone starts judging and contributing to the rumor mill...think about one thing...this could have been a member of your family or good friend.An aircraft was damaged and the pilot is now getting the medical attention he needs.
At the end of the day no one was hurt and machines can be repaired.
You just never know what you are going to wake up to and the mind is a mysterious thing!

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Jim, I'm sorry this is so close to home for you but surely you must see the humour we are seeing. Its obvious to all that this is an irrational act by somebody who is ill but we have to be able to laugh at misfortune! Most of us are laughing nervously as we all face the same stresses and threats to our livelihood and fear for our future; in fact we laugh the loudest strictly because nobody was really hurt. I'm sorry for your friend and hope he has a speedy recovery. I'm amazed that more of us don't go postal. Did I ever tell you about the time I was stuck in Timmins for 6 weeks, flying that rotten survey Dash 7? I would have shot that old duck except it already leaked enough fuel to heat the local arena...
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xsbank i may have mislead you with my post. The bottom paragraph was from James with Lakeelse air. The top paragraph (Rant) was from me. To be honest i do not see the humour in a emotional or mental break down by anyone. I find this no more funny then i do when some one forgets to put the gear down and i don't see to many people on this forum making funnies about that. The fact is this poor guy just ended his career in aviation and will be scared by this for life even after he gets help. Thank god no one got hurt.
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It is a sad day to hear a talented aviator has a mental breakdown. May he get the help he needs and recover to fly again some day. Not a joking matter. :(
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I'm amazed AME's don't shoot more aircraft.
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Colonel Sanders wrote:I'm amazed AME's don't shoot more aircraft.
I've had a couple that just about could have been put out of their misery..
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Well said James, I hope this ends well for all involved.

"Losing it" in camp happens far more frequently than most ever hear about, cooks, Geo's, pilots, AME's, the works. Depending what is going on in one's life at the time.

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If you ask me it is most certainly no less tragic just because it was a person that changes the sheets having an episode, instead of someone who is highly skilled.

I suspect I'm not the only one who was teasing sky because we have interacted with him here enough to notice he's a good guy who can take a joke, (even if he might erase it.)

Sorry I upset you godsrcrazy. Working in camp can be tricky, been there. So far my kind of crazy has always been more helpful to get me through until turn around.
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sky's the limit wrote:Well said James, I hope this ends well for all involved.

"Losing it" in camp happens far more frequently than most ever hear about, cooks, Geo's, pilots, AME's, the works. Depending what is going on in one's life at the time.

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Indeed. Life in camp doesn't agree with everyone, for some it can be like doing hard time. "Camp" is getting better than it used to be from what I know, but it still ain't always a lot of fun.
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It's tough spending too much time with other people, you're working there's that guy, go to the toilets, go to the showers, go to the meal area...

I have heard first and second hand from a few Electricians that have spent time in both, a workers camp and some sort of prison. They all claimed camp is worse.
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Just last summer, we chartered up to a camp in the NWT to relieve a Helicopter pilot who basically had a similar type of breakdown. When we flew him up 4 days earlier, I mentioned to one of the managers that so-n-so didn't look very good.

I met the plane that picked him up on the ramp and the helicopter pilot staggered to the doorway and I reached up to assist him. He could barely walk, and his talk was completely mumbled and made little or no sense. I knew he was sick and we got him directly over to the hospital. He suffered a mental breakdown...in the old days we called it a nervous breakdown.

He had been long lining in all white conditions & bright sun. He simply lost his mind. He landed safely and then became aggressive with everyone at camp and they called and said please come get him.

Some camps are extreme on people`s entire lifestyle. The only difference between some camps and some prisons is the pay is much better at camps. I feel extremely sorry for this pilot and hope he gets the help he needs and maybe even return to flying one day.

godsrcrazy, I empathize with you and thinks its admirable that you defend your friend this way...and please understand that no one meant any disrespect to your friend directly. The whole thing did come across as funny, but more like a nervous laugh kind of funny? Maybe because a lot of us can relate to feeling that way in the north?
It was close to home for you, so you certainly will be more offended by people making fun at your friends expense. I have spent a lot of my career in the north, isolated, and spent many nights at camps when the wx wouldn't allow me to leave. Im just glad I never was based at a camp of any sort, as not many of them are very nice places to live and work.

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Gotta wonder how many stresses there are: long days, away from family, financial or marriage issues back home, substance abuse. Stay safe. In this way.
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