DC-3 "Crash" Yellowknife

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:04 am

'97 Tercel wrote:Engine fire on rotation in a DC-3 and not even an injury.....seem like a job well done.

I wonder how they'll try and spin this into "pilot error"?

Obviously pilot error; if he hadn't shown up for work, it never would have happened!

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:34 am

shitdisturber wrote:Obviously pilot error; if he hadn't shown up for work, it never would have happened!

So your lifetime of avoiding work like the plague has all been in the interests of safety?

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:57 am

I only have 800 on a Dak but I had an engine failure "about" every 3 months; one particularly memorable one with a large hole in the cowling where the piston went along with a nice toasty fire. Turns out the other pilot only had 2 throttle settings, balls to the wall or idle. Definitely not the airplane's fault.

However, I also think these old pelicans, which I have nothing but respect for, should not carry passengers. I can see the Hay to Yellowknife sched in the dead of winter when the density altitude is so helpful, but they should finally be retired to museums and such. Not only the barely-adequate performance on one but the fire thing, plywood floors and frequently vinyl and old-style plastic finishings plus all that 100 octane right besides the engine. I remember the prop-de-ice alcohol tank behind the pilot's seat. I remember doing a refit in ours and all the exit signs glowed because they were full of radium! I don't know if TC has caught up with the safety stuff, but I'd be surprised.

An attaboy to the crew - scary experience, nicely handled. Any one you can walk away from...

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:26 pm

MUSKEG wrote:Hey if Harper was there then this was probably his fault too. Come on media, should be a tie in there somewhere

No No Muskeg, it was only Harper's fault if the engine failure was on ....wait for it..."the RIGHT WING"...

Problems with the Left Wing would be the opposition's fault.

Glad all OK. No disrespect meant, purely academic question: So Doc/Cat/Dak people, you say she should have been able to make it back, what factors would cause it not to make it? Weight, density altitude, and temperature? Gear weren't stuck down. Did the prop feather ok?

swordfish · Post by **swordfish** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:53 pm

Doc wrote:...Now, before you flame me (and you will) please consider the fact that I have over 6000 hours on the things, with more than 20 flights ending with one feathered. It's time has come.

Well, I've only got about 3200 hours on it, and I NEVER had to turn around right after takeoff with an engine feathered. Not that we didn't have the occasional engine problems, but I never had a fire. Their reliability was pretty good. I flew them for NWT Air and Terra Mines, and more hours than I could legally enter in my log book. Wheels and skis. Now it's a dog on skis, and will only descend on 1 engine, but on wheels, it should climb out at gross...even if slowly.

I don't buy the argument that they couldn't put the gear down; the only reason that would happen would be there wasn't time, because it's much slower with only 1 hydraulic pump.

The military used to fly them at 29,000 GTOW; we took off at 26,9 freight, 26,2 pax. And I have a career of logbook entries to prove it.

gongshowking · Post by **gongshowking** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:06 pm

Nobody knows anything cause we werent there you tit-heads. Do any of you have lives? I really fear for canadian aviation the way people expound their gibberish. People walked away. Well done i say.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:27 pm

Shiny Side Up wrote:
shitdisturber wrote:Obviously pilot error; if he hadn't shown up for work, it never would have happened!
So your lifetime of avoiding work like the plague has all been in the interests of safety?

With you as my role model, how could I fail?

Chuck Ellsworth · Post by **Chuck Ellsworth** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:35 pm

Nobody knows anything cause we werent there you tit-heads. Do any of you have lives? I really fear for canadian aviation the way people expound their gibberish. People walked away. Well done i say.

This accident happened in a 705 operation carrying passengers.

Well done is not good enough because a 705 category airplane should be quite able to fly safely on one engine once airborne.

Therefore we need to know why it could not.

gongshowking · Post by **gongshowking** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:10 pm

"we need to know" Who is the "we". The armchair expert avcanada posse?? Youre too funny. Start a blog or become an investigator or wait till they investigate. It only happened today. Maybe the plane was on fire or had any number of snags...im happy enough nobody was hurt.

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:57 pm

So, Gongshowking, why do you read this site, Accidents and Incidents? There are other sources of accident reports, as I'm sure a man of your expertise and knowledge would know. If you have nothing to offer, maybe you should blow?

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:49 am

Double post.

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:52 am

xsbank wrote:So, Gongshowking, why do you read this site, Accidents and Incidents? There are other sources of accident reports, as I'm sure a man of your expertise and knowledge would know. If you have nothing to offer, maybe you should blow?

+1

gongshowking wrote:"we need to know" Who is the "we". The armchair expert avcanada posse?? Youre too funny. Start a blog or become an investigator or wait till they investigate. It only happened today. Maybe the plane was on fire or had any number of snags...im happy enough nobody was hurt.

To answer your question about who "we" are...

"We" are pilots/engineers/managers that care enough to learn from mistakes of our colleagues and peers. We CARE when an aircraft that should be able to maintain on one fan, wasn't able to.

Job well done to the crew...but like others, I am anxious to hear why it couldn't make it back.

We all have lives that post on here...and part of our "lives" is aviation.

Maybe try POF, you may be more well received.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:21 pm

I wasn't there.
"Job well done by the crew..." remains to be seen.
A lightly loaded DAK (which this one reportedly was) is fairly easy to clean up, and return to the airport without incident. This one did not. Why? I don't know. I want to know. These guys came close to not making it (when you clip trees, fences, etc., you almost didn't make it) and we do need to know why. Was the fire such that getting on the ground trumped all else? The aircraft didn't burn to the ground after landing, so I sincerely doubt it.
I've flown several DC3's on one engine with various loads. I know what they'll do. This should have been a non event.
These are NOT the reliable "cool" airplane some of you romantics seem to think they are. They are antiquated museum relics. They do not belong in commercial ops carrying passengers.
Most are poorly maintained at best (not pointing fingers, general comment) requiring many hours of maintenance for each hour of flight. If a DC3 is spending less time "under the wrench" than it spends in the air, it's not being maintained properly.
Put them where they belong. Private collections. Museums. Just don't be selling people tickets to ride on them with scheduled air carriers.

CID · Post by **CID** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:01 pm

Umm...if you have an engine fire, maybe the priority is to get the thing down and get the passengers off. Maybe it's best to wait for the investigation before any serious conclusions regarding the maintenance of the aircraft or the actions of the crew are involved.

I don't mind healthy speculation but these blatent "general' comments that condemn an operator before the evidence is made public is not only inflammatory, it's a bit pathetic.

Is this what this forum is becoming?

GUMPS · Post by **GUMPS** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:37 pm

CID wrote: Is this what this forum is becoming?

Yes. It's time to adjust and adapt

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:15 pm

CID wrote:Umm...if you have an engine fire, maybe the priority is to get the thing down and get the passengers off. Maybe it's best to wait for the investigation before any serious conclusions regarding the maintenance of the aircraft or the actions of the crew are involved.

I don't mind healthy speculation but these blatent "general' comments that condemn an operator before the evidence is made public is not only inflammatory, it's a bit pathetic.

Is this what this forum is becoming?

Getting the thing down, and getting the passengers off would USUALLY involve actually CLEARING the trees and fence? This would involve climbing after takeoff. If you flew, you'd know this.
Either way, I fail to see ANY condemnation of any operator.

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CamAero · Post by **CamAero** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:59 pm

The old girl doesn't even look too banged up.. I think I see a prop migrated off, hard-a-starboard though. Doubtlessly suffered the old "1830 up-rooted reduction case" syndrome there. The port engine prop tends to walk into the fuselage when that happens. Great insight from BJ on the whole thing, for all you haters out there..

CA

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/sto ... crash.html

Dh8Classic · Post by **Dh8Classic** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:16 am

Doc wrote: Most are poorly maintained at best (not pointing fingers, general comment)

Please show us examples of how the DC-3's flying these days are poorly maintained. If you don't have direct evidence to show us, then at least tell us where you have discovered that most DC-3's are poorly maintained at best.

Eric Janson · Post by **Eric Janson** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:15 am

I have 3400 hours on the DC-3 - all with Buffalo.

The aircraft were well looked after when I worked there - only had 1 failure/shutdown in 7 years.

Just to satisfy my curiosity - when was the last DC-3 crash with passenger fatalities in Canada?

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:40 am

Eric Janson wrote:I have 3400 hours on the DC-3 - all with Buffalo.

The aircraft were well looked after when I worked there - only had 1 failure/shutdown in 7 years.

Just to satisfy my curiosity - when was the last DC-3 crash with passenger fatalities in Canada?

Sounds like you had a good experience. It's probably been quite a while since a fatality occurred in Canada on one. I know several pilots who were killed in them. Mostly freight operations, and many years ago. Actually, for the number of DC3's flying, even back then, vs. the number of fatalities, the DC3 did not have an enviable record. I can think of, off the cuff of 5 fatals. Out of a fleet of well under 50-60 aircraft, that's pretty crappy. Buffalo is a pretty unique beast, in that, who else flies them on sked service in Canada today? There were recently a couple flying for lodges. One in MB, but I don't think they do that anymore. They were using a 580 last time I checked.
Like you Eric, I really enjoyed flying them. Not so much the rest of the "song and dance" that wen with it.
C'Mon guys, it's time to retire the old girl.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:43 am

Dh8Classic wrote:
Doc wrote: Most are poorly maintained at best (not pointing fingers, general comment)
Please show us examples of how the DC-3's flying these days are poorly maintained. If you don't have direct evidence to show us, then at least tell us where you have discovered that most DC-3's are poorly maintained at best.

So, you want me to name names? On a public forum? Give your head a shake.
Buffalo has pretty good maintenance, from what I know. They're too "high profile" not to.
2+2=4 Please show your work.

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:46 am

The Canadian TSB has posted a picture on their site:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsbcanada/9563435527/

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:50 am

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There are 180 crash records for the Douglas DC-3 in our database.

Date Airline/Location Aircraft Type/Registration Fatalities

01.10.1950 Air Nolis Douglas DC-3 ---
Niger, West Africa F-BEFQ

01.18.1950 Trans Asiatic Airlines Douglas DC-3 0:?
Rangoon, Myanmar PI-C184

01.24.1950 Philippine Airlines Douglas DC-3 4:4
Iolio, Philippines PI-C22

01.25.1950 Air Services India Douglas DC-3 0:3
Shella, India VT-CPQ

02.02.1950 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Douglas DC-3 7:7
--- PH-TEU

02.16.1950 Air France Douglas DC-3 0:?
Cotonou, Benin F-BAOD

02.27.1950 Ceskoslovenske Aerolinie Douglas DC-3 5:?
Praha, Czech Republic ---

03.25.1950 Develt Hava Yollari Douglas DC-3 15:15
Ankara, Turkey TC-BAL

04.05.1950 Deccan Airways Douglas DC-3 3:3
Hatiara, India VT-CJD

04.18.1950 Bharat Airways Douglas DC-3 ---
Calcutta, India VT-CGM

05.01.1950 French High Commissioner to Cameroon Douglas DC-3 ---
Tenkodongo, Cameroon F-OAFP

05.17.1950 Indian Airways Douglas DC-3 2:2
Balurghat, India VT-CHB

05.30.1950 Aerovias Douglas DC-3 13:15
Ilheus, Brazil PP-AVZ

06.09.1950 New Tribes Mission Douglas DC-3 15:15
Fonseca, Colombia N16030

07.09.1950 Aigle Air Douglas DC-3 22:29
Casablanca, Morocco F-BFGL

07.17.1950 Indian Airlines Douglas DC-3 22:22
Patharkot, India VT-ATS

09.04.1950 Robinson Airlines Douglas DC-3 16:23
Utica, New York, USA N18936

09.14.1950 Iran Airlines Douglas DC-3 8:8
Tehran, Iran EP-AAG

09.21.1950 Jugoslovenski Aerotransport Douglas DC-3 10:11
Zagreb, Croatia (Yugoslavia) YU-ABC

11.17.1950 Garuda Indonesia Douglas DC-3 2:23
Surabaya, Indonesia PK-DBP

11.23.1950 Faucett Douglas DC-3 9:9
Cuzco, Peru OB-PAU

11.25.1950 Indamer Douglas DC-3 3:3
Bhutan VT-COI

12.01.1950 Iran Airlines Douglas DC-3 8:8
Chamaran, Iran EP-AAJ

12.09.1950 Atlas Air Douglas DC-3 5:7
Ruig Piner, France F-BAXY

12.13.1950 Air India Douglas DC-3 21:21
Katagiri, India VT-CFK

12.22.1950 Canadian Pacific Airlines Douglas DC-3 2:18
Okanagan, Canada CF-CUF

12.30.1950 Aerolineas Argentinas Douglas DC-3 17:18
Cobo, Argentina LV-ACH

01.13.1951 Air Carriers Douglas DC-3 10:10
Bukit Besar, Thailand VR-HEP

01.31.1951 Icelandair Douglas DC-3 20:20
Hafnarfjorour, Iceland TF-ISG

03.02.1951 Mid-Continent Airlines Douglas DC-3 16:25
Sioux City, Iowa, USA N19928

03.26.1951 Aerolineas Argentinas Douglas DC-3 11:20
Rio Grande, Argentina LV-ACY

04.06.1951 Pacific Southwest Airlines Douglas DC-3C 22:22
Santa Barbara, California, USA N63439

04.09.1951 Siamese Airways Douglas DC-3 16:16
Hong Kong, China HS-SAE

04.28.1951 United Airlines Douglas DC-3A 11:11
Fort Wayne, Indiana N16088

09.08.1951 VASP Douglas DC-3 13:13
Sao Paulo, Brazil PP-SPQ

09.12.1951 Societe Alpes Provence Douglas DC-3 39:39
Ialas Baeares, Spain F-BEIZ

09.15.1951 Air India Douglas DC-3 1:27
Bangalore, India VT-CCA

10.08.1951 Aero Transportes Douglas DC-3 8:8
Cerro Blanco, Mexico XA-GOR

10.15.1951 South African Airways Douglas DC-3 17:17
East Griqualand, South Africa ZS-AVJ

11.21.1951 Deccan Airways Douglas DC-3 16:17
Calcutta, India VT-AUO

12.31.1951 Kalinga Airlines Douglas DC-3 3:3
Calcutta, India VT-COA

01.10.1952 Aer Lingus Douglas DC-3 23:23
Gwynynt Lake, England EI-AFL

02.04.1952 Sabena Douglas DC-3 16:16
Kikwit, Belgian Congo OO-CBN

03.29.1952 TACA Douglas DC-3 12:12
San Felipe, Venezuela YV-C-AZU

03.30.1952 Philippine Airlines Douglas DC-3 10:29
Baguio, Philippines PI-C270

08.12.1952 Transportes Areos Nacionales Douglas DC-3 24:24
Palmeira de Goias, Brazil PP-ANH

10.14.1952 REAL Douglas DC-3 14:28
San Francisco de Paulo, Brazil PP-AXJ

12.25.1952 Iran Air Douglas DC-3 27:29
Tehran, Iran EP-ACJ

01.26.1953 Linee Aeree Italiane Douglas DC-3 19:19
Sinnai, Italy I-LAIL

04.16.1953 Aigle Azur Douglas DC-3 30:30
Hanoi, Vietnam F-BESS

05.09.1953 Air India Douglas DC-3 18:18
Delhi, India VT-AUD

05.17.1953 Delta Air Lines Douglas DC-3 19:20
Waskom, Texas N28345

06.15.1953 LACSA Douglas DC-3 11:14
San Ramon Mtns., Costa Rica TI-1002

06.16.1953 Aigle Azur Douglas DC-3 30:30
Phou-Lassy, French Indo-China F-BEST

09.01.1953 Regina Cargo Airlines Douglas DC-3 21:21
Vail, Washington N19941

11.03.1953 Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Douglas DC-3 28:28
Potosi, Bolivia CP-600

12.12.1953 Indian Airlines Douglas DC-3 13:14
Nagpur, India VT-CHF

01.11.1954 Avianca Douglas DC-3 21:21
Manizales, Colombia HK-160

01.14.1954 Ceskoslovenske Aerolinie Douglas DC-3 15:15
Prague, Czechoslovakia ---

03.25.1954 Aeronaves de Mexico Douglas DC-3 18:18
Monterrey, Mexico XA-GUN

04.03.1954 Devlet Hava Yollari Douglas DC-3 25:25
Adana, Turkey TC-ARK

04.13.1954 Lan Chile Douglas DC-3 16:16
Santiago, Chile ---

04.23.1954 Aerolineas Argentinas Douglas DC-3 25:25
Sierra del Vilgo, Argentina LV-ACX

05.31.1954 Transportes Aereos Nacionales Douglas DC-3 19:19
Cipo, Brazil PP-ANO

08.22.1954 Braniff Airlines Douglas DC-3 12:19
Mason City, Iowa, USA N61451

11.16.1954 TAM Bolivia Douglas DC-3 24:24
--- ---

12.04.1954 Air Laos Douglas DC-3 28:28
Luang Pragang, Laos F-BEIA

12.22.1954 Johnson Flying Service Douglas DC-3 10:28
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA N24320

02.01.1955 Indian Airlines Douglas DC-3 10:10
Nagpur, India VT-CVB

05.18.1955 East African Airlines Douglas DC-3 20:20
Mt. Kilmanjaro, Kenya VP-KKH

07.14.1955 Lineas Areas Unidas Douglas DC-3 20:88
XA-DOB ---

08.26.1955 Cruzeiro Douglas DC-3 13:13
Caparao, Brazil PP-CBY

01.18.1956 Ceskoslovenske Aerolinie Douglas DC-3 22:26
Torysa, Czechoslovakia OK-WDZ

02.24.1956 Syrian Airways Douglas DC-3 19:19
Aleppo, Syria YK-AAE

05.15.1956 Indian Airlines Douglas DC-3 14:33
Kathmandu, Nepal VT-DBA

05.24.1956 Aviateca Douglas DC-3 30:31
Guatemala City, Guatemela TG-AHA

07.16.1956 Aerolineas Argentinas Douglas DC-3 18:18
Rio Cuarto, Argentina LV-ACD

08.08.1956 Union of Burma Airways Douglas DC-3 12:20
Thazi, Burma XY-ADC

12.22.1956 Linee Aeree Italiane Douglas DC-3 21:21
Mt. Giner, Italy I-LINC

01.23.1957 Lanica Douglas DC-3 16:16
Ometepe Island, Nicaragua AN-AEC

03.09.1957 Avianca Douglas DC-3 15:15
El Soldado, Colombia HK-155

03.18.1957 Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Douglas DC-3 19:19
Sayari, Bolivia CP-535

04.08.1957 Air France Douglas DC-3 30:30
Algiers, Algeria F-BEIK

04.10.1957 REAL Douglas DC-3 26:30
Anichieta Island, Brazil PP-ANX

06.23.1957 Queen Charlotte Airlines Douglas DC-3 14:18
Port Hardy, Canada CF-EPI

07.01.1957 Pakistan International Airlines Douglas DC-3 24:24
Bay of Bengal, Pakistan AP-AJS

08.29.1957 SAHSA Douglas DC-3 12:12
Juticalpa, Honduras ---

09.15.1957 Northeast Airlines Douglas DC-3 12:24
New Bedford, Massachusetts N33417

10.28.1957 Iberia Douglas DC-3 21:21
Madrid, Spain EC-ACH

01.21.1958 TAM Bolivia Douglas DC-3 11:11
La Paz, Bolivia TAM-04

03.24.1958 Indian Airlines Douglas DC-3 20:20
Kathmandu, Nepal VT-CYN

04.07.1958 AREA Douglas DC-3 32:32
Mt. Illiniza, Ecuador HC-ACL

08.12.1958 All Nippon Airways Douglas DC-3 33:33
Sakiya Saugye, Japan JA5045

01.08.1959 Southeast Airlines Douglas DC-3 10:10
Mt. Holston, Tennessee, USA N19841

03.29.1959 Indian Airlines Douglas DC-3 24:24
Silchar, India VT-CGI

04.29.1959 Iberia Douglas DC-3 28:28
Valdemeca, Spain EC-ABC

05.15.1959 Aerolineas Argentinas Douglas DC-3 10:10
Mar del Plata, Argentina LV-AFW

08.19.1959 Transair Douglas DC-3 32:32
Barcelona, Spain G-AMZD

10.29.1959 Olympic Airways Douglas DC-3 18:18
Athens, Greece SX-BAD

10.30.1959 Piedmont Airlines Douglas DC-3 26:27
Waynesborough, Virginia N55V

02.25.1960 REAL Douglas DC-3 64:64
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil PP-AXD

04.12.1960 Cruzeiro do Sul Douglas DC-3 10:22
Pelotas, Brazil PP-CDS

04.28.1960 Linea Aeropostal Venezolana Douglas DC-3 13:13
Calaboza, Venezuela YV-C-AFE

07.10.1960 Gulf Aviation Douglas DC-3 16:16
Persian Gulf VT-DGS

11.23.1960 Philippine Airlines Douglas DC-3 33:33
Manila, Philippines PI-C133

12.22.1960 Philippine Airlines Douglas DC-3 28:37
Cebu City, Philippines PI-C126

01.03.1961 Finnair Douglas DC-3 25:25
Koivulahti, Finland OH-LCC

01.24.1961 Garuda Indonesia Douglas DC-3 21:21
Mt. Burangrang, Indonesia PK-GDI

02.03.1961 Garuda Indonesia Douglas DC-3 26:26
Surabaya, Indonesia PK-GDY

03.09.1961 Linea Aeropostal Venezolana Douglas DC-3 12:12
Caracas, Venezuela YV-C-AZQ

04.03.1961 LAN Douglas DC-3 24:24
Llico, Chile CC-C-LDP

08.06.1961 Malev Douglas DC-3 27:27
Budapest, Hungary HA-TSA

10.07.1961 Derby Aviation Douglas DC-3 34:34
Canigou, France G-AMSW

02.04.1962 Faucett Douglas DC-3 18:18
Tino Maria, Peru OP-PBH-530

08.01.1962 Royal Nepal Airlines Douglas DC-3 10:10
Kathmandu, Nepal 9N-AAH

08.23.1962 Texader Douglas DC-3 20:32
Berranca Bermeja, Colombia HK-794

11.10.1962 Air Vietnam Douglas DC-3 27:27
Tourane, South Vietnam XV-NID

03.02.1963 Philippine Airlines Douglas DC-3 27:27
Davao City, Philippines PI-C489

03.30.1963 Itavia Douglas DC-3 11:11
Sora, Italy I-TAVI

05.12.1963 United Arab Airlines Douglas DC-3 34:34
Ayayda, Egypt SU-AJX

06.10.1963 Union of Burma Airways Douglas DC-3 20:20
Yunnan, Burma XY-ACS

07.01.1963 Varig Douglas DC-3 15:18
Passo Fundo, Brazil PP-VBV

07.03.1963 New Zealand International Airways Douglas DC-3 23:23
Mt. Ngatamahinerua, New Zealand YK-AYZ

11.08.1963 Finnair Douglas DC-3 22:24
Mariehamn, Finland OH-LCA

01.09.1964 Aerolineas Litoral Argentina Douglas DC-3 28:30
Zarate, Argentina LV-FYJ

02.21.1964 Philippine Airlines Douglas DC-3 31:32
Marawi, Philippines PI-C97

03.08.1963 Taxi Aereo de Santander Douglas DC-3 28:28
Bogota, Colombia HK-862

12.08.1964 Aerolineas Abaroa Douglas DC-3 17:17
Tripuani, Bolivia CP-639

03.08.1965 Fairways Douglas DC-3 10:12
Libmanan, Philippines ---

09.11.1965 Filipinas Orient Airways Douglas DC-3A 11:11
La Carlota, Phillipines PI-C942

09.16.1965 Air Vietnam Douglas DC-3 38:39
Quang Ngai, South Vietnam XV-NIC

11.27.1965 Edde Airlines Douglas DC-3 13:13
Salt Lake City, Utah, USA ---

12.07.1965 Spantax Douglas DC-3 32:32
Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain EC-ARZ

01.01.1966 Garuda Indonesia Douglas DC-3 34:34
Palembang, Sumarta, Indonesia PK-GDU

01.22.1966 COHATA Douglas DC-3 35:35
Port-au-Prince, Haiti N4662

06.29.1966 Philippine Airlines Douglas DC-3 24:26
Sagalyan, Philippines PI-C17

11.22.1966 Aden Airways Douglas DC-3 30:30
Aden, Yemen VR-AAN

04.27.1967 Avianca Douglas DC-3 17:18
Sogamosa, Colombia HK-326

06.24.1967 Saudi Arabian Airlines Douglas DC-3 16:17
Khalif, Nseir, Saudi Arabia HZ-AAM

07.23.1967 Taiwan Aviation Douglas DC-3 16:16
Prabang, Laos B-112

02.24.1968 Royal Air Lao Douglas DC-3 37:37
Ban Napa, Laos XW-TAD

04.08.1968 Ladeco Douglas DC-3 36:36
Coyhaique, Chile CC-CBM

04.10.1968 Aerovias Rojas Douglas DC-3 18:18
Mexico City, Mexico XA-GEV

01.02.1969 China Airlines Douglas DC-3 24:24
Paku, Taiwan B-309

02.18.1969 Mineral County Airlines Douglas DC-3 35:35
Lone Pine, California, USA N15570

03.20.1969 Avion Airways Douglas DC-3 16:27
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA N142D

04.24.1969 Ghana Airways Douglas DC-3 1:33
Takoradi, Ghana 9G-AAF

07.12.1969 Royal Nepal Airlines Douglas DC-3 35:35
Hitauda, Nepal 9N-AAP

09.08.1969 Satena Douglas DC-3 32:32
Meta, Colombia FAC-685

09.14.1969 VASP Douglas DC-3 20:20
Londrina-Parana, Brazil PP-SPP

01.13.1970 Polynesian Airlines Douglas DC-3 32:32
Faleola, Western Samoa 5W-FAC

02.12.1970 Compania Dominicana de Aviacion Douglas DC-3 12:12
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic HK-177

03.26.1971 JamAir Douglas DC-3 15:15
Gauhati, India VT-ATT

06.28.1971 Charter Douglas DC-3 17:24
Shelter Cove, California, USA N90627

09.28.1971 Cruzeiro Douglas DC-3 32:32
Sena Madureira, Brazil PP-CBV

07.29.1972 Avianca Douglas DC-3 38:38
Villavicencio, Colombia HK-1341/HK-107

08.16.1972 Burma Airways Douglas DC-3 28:31
Sandoway, Myanmar XY-ACM

09.10.1972 Ethiopian Airlines Douglas DC-3 11:11
Gondar, Ethiopia ET-ABQ

10.02.1972 Cambodia Air Douglas DC-3 9:9
Kampot, Cambodia XW-TDA

02.21.1973 Aerovias Urraca Douglas DC-3 22:28
Cerro Horqueta, Panama HP-560

05.19.1973 Cambodia Air Douglas DC-3 11:11
Svay Rieng, Cambodia XW-TDM

08.22.1973 Avianca Douglas DC-3 16:17
El Yopal, Colombia HK-111

11.17.1973 Air Vietnam Douglas DC-3 27:27
Quang-Ngai, Vietnam XV-NIE

01.17.1974 Cessnyca Douglas DC-3A 14:14
Cigerdu, Colombia HK-1216

01.08.1975 Satena Douglas DC-3 30:30
Docello, Colombia FAC-688

11.18.1975 Aviateca Douglas DC-3 15:22
Peten State, Guatemala TG-AGA

03.01.1977 Alyemda Douglas DC-3 19:19
Aden, Yemen ---

04.10.1977 Taxi Aereo el Venado Douglas DC-3 35:35
Bogota, Colombia HK-556

12.13.1977 Air Indiana Douglas DC-3 29:29
Evansville, Indiana, USA N51071

09.12.1980 Florida Commuter Airlines Douglas DC-3 34:34
Freeport, Bahamas N75KW

01.29.1986 AeroCalifornia Douglas DC-3 21:21
Las Lomitas, Mexico XA-IOR

04.12.1988 United Air Douglas DC-3C 24:24
Hennenman, South Africa ZS-UAS

12.22.1991 Classic Wings Douglas DC-3A 28:32
Heidelberg, Germany D-CCCC

09.25.1996 Dutch Dakota Association Douglas DC-3C 32:32
Waddenzee, Netherlands PH-DDA

03.18.1999 Aliansa Douglas DC-3 8:8
Tame, Colombia HK-337

07.20.2000 Allied Air Freight Douglas DC-3 3:3
Nassau, Bahamas N54AA

01.23.2001 Majestic Air Cargo Douglas DC-3C 2:2
Eider Point, Alaska, USA N19454

01.25.2001 Rutaca Airlines Douglas DC-3C 24:24
Cuidad Bolivar, Venezuela YV-224C

04.04.2001 Roblex Aviation Douglas DC-3A 0:2
San Juan, Puerto Rico N19BA

10.15.2004 Aerovanguardia Douglas DC-3C 3:3
Medellín, Colombia HK-1503

Kind of found this interesting. 1950 was a bad year. I see even Air France is listed.

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:59 am

Right prop "appears" feathered, but running at impact, yes?

If so, very strange that it was unable to climb away...

Colonel Sanders · Post by **Colonel Sanders** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:10 am

Doc: according to your summary, the DC-3 appears
to be getting safer with each passing year

God, I love statistics. The whore of mathematics.

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