Nav Canada Infographic on Employment and Training Trends

[rspencer38]

Saw this infographic posted by NavCan stating that Edmonton has the best ratios of training seats to applicants. Anyone have any idea what these ratios are like?

https://magic.piktochart.com/output/393 ... c-services

[TheJudge]

The link you posted stated about 1% of applicants get training offers (~50/4000).. so logically i'd imagine edmonton is slightly better than that if the stated info is national.

[Dutchpilotguy]

Anyone have any idea what these ratios are like?

Hey there:

I can say that we had a very small class in EG, ending off with two of us, starting with three on day one (a fourth was a no show...)

Ultimately this ratio was without a doubt, AMAZING, albeit rare! Couple that with our totally awesome training team and you have the recipe for all kinds of success.

Maybe DrivingComet can give some insight into the T.O. side of things, but 4-8 is the range I have heard all around. At the end of the day, training needs are based on operational requirements and everyone will have the same opportunities for success.

Dutch

[Driving Comet]

The number when I was in the school seemed to be around 6. 6 in my generic VFR and I think there was 6 in the IFR generic. This was a year and a half ago.

[MikeAndHike]

Hey Dutchpilotguy, I am curious why you think the third applicant didn't make it. I agree that with classes that small pass rates should be pretty high. So what was it that caused this person to fail? I ask out of curiosity and because I will be starting my training on Monday and will take what ever info I can acquire to make sure I am successful.

Thanks,
Mike

[Dutchpilotguy]

Hey Mike:
I don't want to put it out there too much because as you will find, training is a very personal experience, as well as a very lonely experience in that when things go wrong, there's never really anyone to blame but yourself... But that's another topic altogether.

So in the interest of not throwing the third person out there for the small world of ATC to shake their heads at, I will say this: when you are training, training is all you need to be focused on. I myself serve as a Canadian Forces reservist, and am also completing my degree, while also still holding a Commercial pilots license with an IFR rating that needs to be kept current. During generic training I wore my CF uniform once, and that was on remembrance day. I flew twice and that was during Christmas break, and as my birthday falls in that time, it was a birthday gift. As for the degree, it wasn't until qualifying that I got back to it.

The simple reality is that your brain cannot and should not take on anymore than what Nav Canada brings your way. Your job requires you to be switched on, and anything less of an expectation is unreasonable (the flying public won't permit less of a commitment...). Training will become an all encompassing experience, and you will quickly find that everything else is just noise.

If you cave to the noise, it's only your career to lose.

Best of luck! I wish you success. My only tips: Keep your head down (except in the sim ) and acknowledge that EVERYONE knows more than you (ATC is a tough crowd if you become known as an 'expert'); embrace your errors; worship the semi-colon; acknowledge the omnipresent word "practicable"; know the difference between 'and', as well as 'or'; keep the end game in mind, but look only at what's happening INFRONT OF YOU; and remember to have fun! Training is the time to make "free" mistakes, just don't make them twice (no pressure... )

All of the best!
Dutch

[Driving Comet]

Forget MANOPS, we had to take 5 minutes and look up the definition of 'practicable' when it first came up

[Dutchpilotguy]

[Driving Comet]

I agree with what Dutch said. You really have to make your life about training. It was summer while I was doing generic. Being stuck inside the whole time sucked, but short term sacrifice will less to a long term gain.

To add, I think very it's important to try make training fun. No one is motivated to go do something that they don't enjoy, and you have to be motivated to put in the time and effort required. For the most part, I looked forward to going to train everyday. I enjoyed training with the other people, messing around with the simulator and learning from the instructors.

The sim is a consequence free environment. You can make mistakes and this shouldn't stress you too much. If you're making the same mistake over and over, that's a different story, but you can get aggressive and really control the sim to make it do what you want, which I thought was fun.

Have a good time and training will be a lot easier.

[Lotro]

*edited out*

Irrelevant statement now.