Urgent need of survival literature 4 ground school!!!!

... · Post by **...** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:33 pm

Anyone out there that can help that satisfies Transport Canada's requirements...I would appreciate it!!!!
Either by a link to free stuff where I dont have to wait for it to come via 'snail mail'

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:37 pm

IAAB I am in the same boat. CAF had some training manuals called "Down but not OUT" don't know where to get one though. When I find one, I'll PM you.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:52 pm

I find that a high limit credit card and a pack of condoms make for a good survival kit.

KENNYR · Post by **KENNYR** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:44 pm

Birddog, if you have the time available, call the nearest AirForce base and ask for the training officer. He may be able to help you.

gryphon · Post by **gryphon** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:11 am

Give me a call numbnuts, I can help you out with that. I'll send you my number on your hotmail acct.

... · Post by **...** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:23 pm

Hey numb 'chin'

I'll give you a call alright...about 3 oclock in the morning biaaahhhtch!!

YEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:00 pm

http://www.abebooks.com
Book search engine.... Down But not out, is available in listed booksellers in just about every province.

Originally, it was available from Cdn Govt Publishing Center Dept of Supply and Services YOW

Catalogue no. DC3-22/1984E
ISBN 0-660-11549-2

Chapters lists it for 14 bucks

Just one of those books that a driver ought to be more than passing familiar with in the bush.

OW · Post by OW » Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:31 am

You might want to have a look at " The SAS Survival Handbook" by John Wiseman. (Harper Collins)

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:28 am

OW :

Yup.

I have a copy of Johns survival book that is about the size of a deck of cards.

Awsome book for any region on earth.

Cat

Ireton · Post by **Ireton** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:51 am

You can get videos from the National Film Board. There's a pile about different things.

"Bush Survival"

http://www.nfb.ca/nfbstore/ibeCCtpItmDs ... atid=10829

"Summer Bush Survival" Used for CF personelle.

http://www.nfb.ca/nfbstore/ibeCCtpItmDs ... atid=14250

"Winter Bush Survival"

http://www.nfb.ca/nfbstore/ibeCCtpItmDs ... atid=14251

"Winter Survival"

http://www.nfb.ca/nfbstore/ibeCCtpItmDs ... atid=13262

"Sea Survival"

http://www.nfb.ca/nfbstore/ibeCCtpItmDs ... atid=14252

"Arctic Survival"

http://www.nfb.ca/nfbstore/ibeCCtpItmDs ... atid=14253

Andrew.

I am Birdfod · Post by **I am Birdfod** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:43 am

I always enjoyed...

"Don't Crash Stoooooopid" by Corneilious A. Cornshoot.

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:38 pm

Birdy ol ' buddy.
All us Duck jockeys just got back from the Zoo.
We got trained up real good by these guys. I 've had em for helicopter dunk tank and under water escape training before but this time their program had been expanded to include a basic 1 day survival traing course taught by an ex Canadian Forces SAR Tech.
They are coming out to our neck of the woods soon so give em a call.

http://www.hsrsaviation.ca
Cheers Pedro

onceacop · Post by **onceacop** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:49 pm

Canadian Survival Kit Regulations
Canada used to have pretty stringent regulations regarding required survival gear. They recently revised the regulations. The current version of the regulation follows, with the
former version, a fairly good guide for what may be considered acceptable.
Survival Equipment - Flights over Land
602.61 (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person shall operate an aircraft over land unless there is carried on board survival equipment, sufficient for the survival on the ground of each person on board, given the geographical area, the season of the year and anticipated seasonal climatic variations, that provides the means for:
(a) starting a fire;
(b) providing shelter;
(c) providing or purifying water; and
(d) visually signalling distress.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply in respect of
(a) a balloon, a glider, a hang glider, a gyroplane or an ultra-light aeroplane;
(b) an aircraft that is operated within 25 nautical miles of the aerodrome of departure and that has the capability of radiocommunication with surface-based radio
station for the duration of the flight;
(c) a multi-engined aircraft this is operated south of 66 30' north latitude
(i) in IFR flight within controlled airspace, or
(ii) along designated air routes;
(d) an aircraft that is operated by an air operator, where the aircraft is equipped with equipment specified in the air operator's company operations manual, but not
with the equipment required by subsection (1); or
(e) an aircraft that is operated in a geographical area where and at a time of year when the survival of the persons on board is not jeopardized.

onceacop · Post by **onceacop** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:50 pm

Old Canadian Regulations (no longer in force)
Emergency Equipment for Flights in Sparsely Settled Areas (most of the area north of 52 degrees North latitude is designated as "Sparsely Settled")
1.Food having a caloric value of at least 10,000 calories per person carried, not subject to deterioration by heat or cold and stored in a sealed waterproof
container bearing a tag or label on which the operator of the aircraft or his representative has certified the amount and satisfactory condition of the food in the container following an inspection made not more than 6 months prior to the flight.
2.Cooking utensils.
3.Matches in a waterproof container.
4.A stove and a supply of fuel or a self-contained means of providing heat for cooking when operating north of the tree line.
5.A portable compass.
6.An axe of at least 2 1/2 pounds or 1 kilogram weight with a handle of not less than 28 inches or 70 centimeters in length. (typically referred to as a "Hudson Bay" axe)
7.A flexible saw blade or equivalent cutting tool.
8.Snare wire of at least 30 feet or 9 meters and instructions for its use.
9.Fishing equipment including still fishing bait and a gill net of not more than a 2 inch or 3 centimeter mesh.
10.Mosquito nets or netting and insect repellant sufficient to meet the needs of all persons carried when operating in an area where insects are likely to be hazardous.
11.Tents or engine and wing covers of a suitable design, coloured or having panels coloured in international orange or other high visibility colour, sufficient to accommodate all persons when operating north of the tree line.
12.Winter sleeping bags sufficient in quantity to accommodate all persons carried when operating in an area where the mean daily temperature is likely to be
7 degrees C (approx. 45 degrees F) or less.
13.Two pairs of snow shoes when operating in areas where the ground snow cover is likely to be 12 inches or 30 centimeters of more.
14.A signalling mirror.
15.At least 3 pyrotechnical distress signals.
16.A sharp jack-knife or hunting knife of good quality.
17.A suitable survival instruction manual.
18.Conspicuity panel.
The following are suggested as useful additional equipment:
1.Spare Axe Handle
2.Honing stone or file
3.Ice chisel
4.Snow knife or snow saw
5.Snow shovel
6.Flashlight with spare bulbs and batteries
7.Pack sack

Airtids · Post by **Airtids** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:56 pm

SAS survival guide makes for awesome reading at any time. The 'Boar Trap' is freaking great. Totally lethal.

... · Post by **...** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:43 pm

Thanks Y'all!

You rock!