Encore AME jobs

[boeingboy]

Except that a living wage is calculated on the fact that BOTH parents are working and that wage!

[sparky99]

So has anything changed at Encore in the last six months, or are they still offering crap? I see they've still been looking for people recently.

[jetsetfly]

So has anything changed at Encore in the last six months, or are they still offering crap? I see they've still been looking for people recently.

No wage increases as of yet still the same but you are guaranteed a q400 course and ACA pay if they want you to have it , a lot of people have come and gone within months after they get there q400 course which they are giving out with no signing bond so you can go for the course and quit right after as north cariboo who are getting q400 are paying over 38 bucks an hr so why would you want to work for such a less amount ....hence the many job postings which have been posted on and off

[NeverBlue]

a lot of people have come and gone within months after they get there q400 course which they are giving out with no signing bond so you can go for the course and quit right after

...and we constantly complain about and wonder why companies require training bonds

[Pat Richard]

a lot of people have come and gone within months after they get there q400 course which they are giving out with no signing bond so you can go for the course and quit right after as north cariboo who are getting q400 are paying over 38 bucks an hr so why would you want to work for such a less amount ....

Good for them!

I only wish NC was bigger/had more bases so they could suck up even more Encore refugees.

As for the bond thing, I hope they go for it. Then watch as AME interest declines even more, if that's possible, lol.

Right now, the fact you can get a q400 course and bail soon after for a better job is the only good thing Encore has going for it.

[NeverBlue]

Nice try, doesn't add anything to the thread and you insult someone. Read the rules.
Bandaid

[azimuthaviation]

No bond? I had a friend apply there and was offered a job and Q400 course but had to sign a 3 year bond. Thats just his word, he could have been lying but not really the kind of thing people make up.

[jetsetfly]

No bond? I had a friend apply there and was offered a job and Q400 course but had to sign a 3 year bond. Thats just his word, he could have been lying but not really the kind of thing people make up.

Havent heard of any 3 year signing bond but there is a 5000$ or 10 000$ bonus if you stick around for i believe 3 years or 2 not very sure on the numbers but like i said with the current wages at encore not many people are sticking around its a revolving door but with the bombardier layoffs who knows might get those positions filled up quick for the east as expansion is happening there this year so lots more jobs about to be posted unless they dual endorse the Mainline AME'S but job postings will still be there Encore is growing too fast also having a hard time keeping up with flight crew hiring

[NeverBlue]

[quoteNice try, doesn't add anything to the thread and you insult someone. Read the rules.
Bandaid][/quote]

So I guess the moderators on this forum get to decide what i meant in my post and weather or not it's insulting.

please explain what is wrong with "i...t's "

and why there's nothing wrong with

What a f*%#?!g joke.

[acidgambit]

There is word out there that Encore will be merging into mainline WJ. So if you want, you can take your chances and work for Encore and once they merge, you'll be on the mainline pay scale and also be working on the 37NG.

[iflyforpie]

Or stuck on a B salary and working on NGs.....

[Pat Richard]

There is word out there that Encore will be merging into mainline WJ. So if you want, you can take your chances and work for Encore and once they merge, you'll be on the mainline pay scale and also be working on the 37NG.

Interesting...wonder what all the reasons are for that, if that is what they are planning. Im guessing securing manpower would potentially be a big reason, but the pay would have to on par with the mainline guys. Otherwise not much worthwhile difference if they just switch company names.

Or stuck on a B salary and working on NGs.....

Would not be surprised if they tried this...

[acidgambit]

Stuck on B scale!? HA! Watch everyone quit.

[david_351]

In response the the guy whomsaid 24/hr is above average for a newly licensed AME in YYC I am not sure where you are working, But even when I first got my lisence in 2007 in YYC I made 25/hr, and am now well north of $30. Almost closer to 40, and no I'm nit a contractor either.

Stay away from the airlines If you want money, I could barely keep from laughing when Westjet mainline made me an offer 2 years ago.

So why did you post this six months ago?

Hello, Im an M1 licensed AME, licensed for 2 years. I have been trying to get on at WJ since before I even graduated school. Last summer I got a call and did a phone interview, then was selected to go in for an in person interview but unfortunately was not selected. I have since been trying and biding my time, I have high hopes for the arrival of the Q400s to bring more maintenance opportunities.


That was before I talked to them and got an offer. I had high expectations of WJ, but after talking to them, and again Encore a few weeks ago, I've lost a lot of respect for them. I am sorry, as much as I admire WJ I can't afford a 35,000 a year pay cut.

I am just wondering if any maintenance personnel have any advice on how to make myself stand out. I know I am at a handicap coming in with only an M1. Would it be advisable to leave my current position and work towards my M2, even possibly get some classic Dash-8 (100-300) series experience, or would doing so make my resume look bad, like I am a job hopper? If anyone could give me some advice on how to make myself stand out among all the other candidates?

Best Regards

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[sled3]

There will always be postings for jobs at that wage as there are always guys who will take the job and just like on here ones who argue it is fine. Yes I agree that is a good wage if you are living in an area that would allow you to sustain yourself on that amount and you did not have to take on the responsibility that is required of a signing ACA. Pilots are responsible for the safety of their passengers and are compensated greatly for it, refer to the captain wage offered by Encore $68 for a captain guarantee of 70hrs = $57000 (and this is very low compared to the other airlines) . Are we not also taking on the responsibility of the safety of everyone on that aircraft, working long hours at night, why are we not being paid as well ($24 x 2080 = $49900. Are we also not living in the major centers and have to afford the costs as well, but cannot afford as nice a house. Was our AME licences just handed to us or did we have to endure 4.5 yrs of training to earn it, unlike a pilot who is only required to complete 100hrs to obtain a commercial licence (I am sure someone will argue the toils required to become a pilot for a major carrier - but I do not care).
Time to start banding together guys as it will never get any better this way.

[Fling Wing]

I know a few apprentices making $24 and hr, and this is for licensed type endorsed guys? Yikes...

[NeverBlue]

Are we not also taking on the responsibility of the safety of everyone on that aircraft, 

Please...tell me where and when an AME signs a statement that says this...anywhere.

[Troubleshot]

Signing a release for an airplane for $24/HR is laughable. If you want to make money by using your hands and tools there many better industries out there. Do your homework and if you still wanna work on airplanes...fill your boots!

[Pat Richard]

But, but...airplanes are so cool...

[jetsetfly]

All this Encore AME Slaves are just looking at getting the Endorsement and jumping ship or trying to get into mainline as they now have there foot in the door

[NeverBlue]

But, but...airplanes are so cool...

I think so.

So...tell me what you're doing that's so much cooler?...working on cars in your driveway?...driving a truck?...welding pipe for miles and miles?...living in a camp?...visiting aviation forums and trying to burst balloons?

Wind turbines that go round and round and round and round...........and round and round and round......?

To each his own.

[azimuthaviation]

Signing a release for an airplane for $24/HR is laughable. If you want to make money by using your hands and tools there many better industries out there. Do your homework and if you still wanna work on airplanes...fill your boots!

The Encore thing is a pretty sweet gig. It has some seriously good perks.

A lot of the things Ive heard from people on the outside turned out to be quite false.

[Troubleshot]

Sweet! I say go for it! Not sure the banks will take "perks" into account when you need a mortgage, loan, etc.. but it does sound awesome!

Maybe I am to old...focusing on things like actual base salary, retirement plans, and putting away actual cash. I know WestJet is a good place to work, I was there once upon a time and they are fair to their employees in regards to "work-life balance". I still have a lot of close friends that still work at WJ main and what I am hearing is the same thing I have seen at other airlines, which is a lot of carrot dangling at Encore.

But hey, what do you have to lose right? Just remember, if you have a pile of crap and you put rainbow sprinkles on it...it looks ok but the insides are still crap.

[Pat Richard]

But hey, what do you have to lose right? Just remember, if you have a pile of crap and you put rainbow sprinkles on it...it looks ok but the insides are still crap.

I needed that, first thing in the morning...

That's right, a 1:45 pm rise, after a awesomecool grave yard shift..

But I have it made. I worked all night on airplanes and I even got paid.

Im so blessed

[Pat Richard]

But, but...airplanes are so cool...

I think so.

So...tell me what you're doing that's so much cooler?...visiting aviation forums and trying to burst balloons?

Just balancing out the "blown smoke up ass" syndrome But yeah, I do think fixing cars is cooler just for fact I don't do it all night long and make as much or more. Anything dayshift mon-fri frankly, is cooler.

If that's what you have, I somewhat get your attitude.

somewhat.