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Meddler wrote:If you accept that they are looking in the right place, the airplane must have traveled in a straight line for most of the flight toward...nothing. No radio call, no attempt to turn toward land at the very least. The only explanation i can imagine for that is that no one was at the controls. How they got to that state, we can only guess.
I can think of an explanation: one of the pilots did it. Maybe he took out a life insurance policy and wanted to make sure the CVR was never found to prevent it from being labelled a suicide, so he aimed for the most remote stretch of ocean he could find. We won't know for sure until more info has been gathered, but you can't simply dismiss it and jump to it being a decompression because you don't like the idea of pilot suicide.
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There can only be one explanation......

Total Catastrophic Disintegration at last transponder reply due to fuselage cracks caused by a improperly installed satellite antenna......CONFIRMED by credible and reliable New Zealand Oil Rig worker MICHAEL J. MCKAY who clearly saw the aircraft go down in a ball of fire. How can the world be so dumb and stupid to go off on wild theories that it went to the Indian Ocean??

Everyone is crazy except me.
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Meddler wrote:If you accept that they are looking in the right place, the airplane must have traveled in a straight line for most of the flight toward...nothing. No radio call, no attempt to turn toward land at the very least. The only explanation i can imagine for that is that no one was at the controls.
If we go on that assumption, what will the plane do once the engines quit due to fuel starvation? What kind of debris field would you expect to see based on the answer of the previous question?
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Well - here's a photo of a 13 month old Boeing 737-300 that nosed dived into the water from FL350 Click Here Silk Air flight 185.
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Now this is interesting.......... :shock:

http://www.maldivesfinest.com/mh370-evidence
An aircraft engineer from Maldives has now said the mysterious object is likely to be a Fire Suppression Bottle of an aircraft. The engineer could not say if it is the type used in Boeing 777 model as he did not personally inspect the object. Meanwhile, we have received multiple messages from readers saying that it looks like plane's fire extinguisher and requested to report to authorities.

This object got landed on Maldives beach amid a multinational team looks for missing Malaysian Flight MH370 which is now believed to be gone down in the Indian Ocean. There has been countless satellite images of possible debris from the missing jet, but so far authorities have failed to find actual debris. If this fire suppression bottle belongs to the missing plane it would be the first piece of hard evidence
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Now of course, is this a hoax or not? Seems small to be on a 777.
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This satellite image chasing is seeming a bit silly now.

Doesn't the US have super spy satellites from which they are supposed to be able to read license plates? Maybe they haven't found anything yet either.
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That's a Twin Otter fire extinguisher.
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8) I agree!! 8)
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Reports this a.m. are now saying that debris seen on satellite is not from the aircraft
Also due to recalculation of the aircrafts power setting and fuel burn, they are shifting the searh another 700 miles from where they are currently looking.
It seems the search teams are really not making much progress and really still have no real clear idea as to where the aircarft may have ended up
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Quoting roughly from some news source:

"We're trying to identify a country within which to look for a farm that may have a haystack in which we hope to find a needle."
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MrWings wrote:Doesn't the US have super spy satellites from which they are supposed to be able to read license plates? Maybe they haven't found anything yet either.
Yes, I believe they do, but with the information that has already been concealed, delayed, or censored, I have little faith in their willingness or inclination to release it, or contribute to the effort.
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The information from Malaysia had red flags all over it and the problem was that Malaysia was being very vague
and remains very vague about it's radar position and altitude reports. Then they flat out denied any Inmarsat pings
and it took more time before they acknowledged it.

I was not impressed until I saw an inmarsat official finally talk on camera and their map showing the time/distance of the pings.
What a pity it took them more day to figure out the Doppler.


Then Inmarsat took more days before they put a name and a
face on TV to confirm the data, and that was to SITA. etc.

Now, "more radar information" has been "released" directly to Australia and the NTSB who have now announced that it was going faster
and that moved the search area 800 miles east.

Notice again, there is no description of what radar specific radar information led to that conclusion.
Now they claim that the reason why there was or is no debris is because the cabin entered the water intact?

More conclusions that are not supported by any evidence, unless of course, there is even more classified information
used to form those conclusions without informing the public.

Now this new area, does not seem to add up to the track the inmarsat / sita boffins originally came up with.
The Ping data is now modified as result of the "classified" radar data?

Does anyone have any idea of the performance of Malaysia's military radar?
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swordfish wrote:Yes, I believe they do, but with the information that has already been concealed, delayed, or censored, I have little faith in their willingness or inclination to release it, or contribute to the effort.
I don't think they'd release their data, but if they knew where it was, I think they'd say look here. I don't think they do know.
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Unless the Americans have it and it's yet to be known cargo stored in Diego Garcia. I find it more than a little suspicious that the Americans are remaining fairly quiet about this whole affair.
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A bit of a comic relief for you all. Read the blue banner on the bottom of the screen.
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Once again CNN, thanks for enlightening us all....... :prayer:
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I don't get this.
An airplane with no fuel is lighter, so why would it struggle to maintain altitude?
Explain this CNN.
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Is there any chance a large airliner with one failed would accidentally fly itself into a fairly smooth water landing? What is the autopilot doing after an engine failure? I'm grasping at straws here, but so is everyone else.
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The information from Malaysia had red flags all over it and the problem was that Malaysia was being very vague
and remains very vague about it's radar position and altitude reports. Then they flat out denied any Inmarsat pings
and it took more time before they acknowledged it.

I was not impressed until I saw an inmarsat official finally talk on camera and their map showing the time/distance of the pings.
What a pity it took them more day to figure out the Doppler.


Then Inmarsat took more days before they put a name and a
face on TV to confirm the data, and that was to SITA. etc.

Now, "more radar information" has been "released" directly to Australia and the NTSB who have now announced that it was going faster
and that moved the search area 800 miles east.

Notice again, there is no description of what radar specific radar information led to that conclusion.
Now they claim that the reason why there was or is no debris is because the cabin entered the water intact?

More conclusions that are not supported by any evidence, unless of course, there is even more classified information
used to form those conclusions without informing the public.

Now this new area, does not seem to add up to the track the inmarsat / sita boffins originally came up with.
The Ping data is now modified as result of the "classified" radar data?

Does anyone have any idea of the performance of Malaysia's military radar?
What does it matter? You still think it's 5 miles from its last known position. Your eyewitness and the debris prove it. :roll:
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CLguy wrote:Unless the Americans have it and it's yet to be known cargo stored in Diego Garcia. I find it more than a little suspicious that the Americans are remaining fairly quiet about this whole affair.
If it went anywhere it went to Gan. If that report from Kuda is true, it was down low enough to see the doors. If it was down there, it would stay there, and it wouldn't be able to go the 700 miles to DG at that altitude. If it was going to DG, why be down there so far away.

What I'd really like to see is a media outlet put out the grand to have somebody come down and give those islanders a lie detector test.

Not that I'm wedded to any particular theory, and I'm only against that guy on here that thinks it crashed when the transponder went off.

Pretty wierd.
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Fox has always been brutal, but CNN is losing a ton of credibility with their ridiculous "Breaking News" and headlines.

I'd like to hear what Mulder and Scully think of all this...
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More pure speculation...
Can anyone find the weather for March 8, 2014 and check what the sea condition was at the time
the MH370 sent it's last ping?

If it did a controlled ditching, would there not be a fair chance that the engines would be knocked off
and the entire aircraft would just fill with water and sink without leaving any significant debris?
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