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Great info, thanks, guys! And last (but not least), how do bush pilots get paid? Hourly for just showing up at work for 8-16 hours, for flight time only, for both? What is a reasonable pay? Or should one just consider himself fortunate to have a job offer and take whatever they are offered, short of the never-acceptable flying for free gig? And are there usually any benefits, or pay in lieu, or none of that? Thanks again!
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I have only ever been paid monthly. Accommodations are usually included, sometimes meals. My first job paid $3000 month with room and board. I guess it's up to you to decide if what is offered would work for you. If I was paid $1500 gross, I don't think I could have even made my loan payments on that.

Don't expect many days off, health benefits or overtime pay.
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Wages for entry level jobs on the dock seem to be around $1800-$3000 paid monthly from what I have gathered through talking with others working in NWO. Accommodations are usually provided, if they aren't; make sure the pay is good as rent can run upwards of $1300 in RL. Some operators provide food on weekends and while on overnights in the bush. Hours will be long, days off will be few and far between. You will learn a lot very quickly from people who have been working the industry a long time. And if you're lucky you will get some time on a 180/185/206 and maybe even get moved up to a pilot position in your first season.
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imac0960 wrote:if you're lucky you will get some time on a 180/185/206 and maybe even get moved up to a pilot position in your first season.
I am under the impression that it IS possible for a newly licensed pilot to get a floatplane job during a road trip. Are you saying it's not very likely, and one has to expect to work the ramp the first season, and hope for a flying job the next season?
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It's definitely possible. It's kind of a right place right time thing. If you get offered a dock job with a Cessna checkout later in the season, I would take it, as long as it's with a good company.
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Duffman wrote:It's definitely possible. It's kind of a right place right time thing. If you get offered a dock job with a Cessna checkout later in the season, I would take it, as long as it's with a good company.
So that there are fewer tears dropped in the beer, how many applicants vie, on average, for one entry-level flying job, in your estimate?
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No idea. You have 50 hours floats right? Your chances are very good, but you should be heading out on your road trip any day now. If you want you can PM me and i'll give your names of companies that I know are very good and a few to stay away from.
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It's absolutely possible to get a flying gig right from the get-go. But some companies want the lower time guys to work the dock and work their way up to a flying go and not all companies fun smaller aircraft. Best of luck! Hope to hear or see you in the skies soon!!
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Been trying to read as much as i can on the topics of finding a job, most of them have been answered already, but one remains kind of vague.
I realize float applications are a mid-april to early june thing, but what about wheel based operators (for a 200 hour wonder)?

Any particularly good time of year to go on a road trip for wheel based operations? Or should I just saddle up and move out whenever Im ready?

Im kind of assuming right now that because I cant really find information on it, that its a year round thing. If Im going to be waiting around for 9 months Im going to be kind of disappointed. :(
Also wondering because my MIFR expires soon and I would like to update that just before going on my road trip
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Qfly wrote:Been trying to read as much as i can on the topics of finding a job, most of them have been answered already, but one remains kind of vague.
I realize float applications are a mid-april to early june thing, but what about wheel based operators (for a 200 hour wonder)?

Any particularly good time of year to go on a road trip for wheel based operations? Or should I just saddle up and move out whenever Im ready?

Im kind of assuming right now that because I cant really find information on it, that its a year round thing. If Im going to be waiting around for 9 months Im going to be kind of disappointed. :(
Also wondering because my MIFR expires soon and I would like to update that just before going on my road trip
Take it with a grain of salt from another 200-hour wonder (still flying the glorious desk!), but, from my reading and in personal experience, the good time for wheel jobs' trip is around April-May. I went on mine late May, and, from talking to everybody from pilots to CPs and Ops Managers, basically everybody hired all the direct-entry "junior pilot" jobs by mid-May. That said, one operator hired a guy literally a day before I showed up (I'm pretty sure awitzke from this board snapped that job), so there are jobs out there. The rest of the year is very much a crapshoot of being at the right place at the right time. If you're a gambler, or are naturally lucky, or if you just want a good adventure, there's really no truly "bad" season to do the trip.

Oh, and keep reading this board, there's a fair few road trip threads with different peoples' experiences in here!
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Hello there guys.
I am new to the float business and I was hoping that you guys can help me.
I got about 500 hrs on light weight A/C and about 30 hrs on constant pitch A/C. I will be getting a float rating this winter ( please let me know if you know any good float schools in BC). I have been working as an AME apprentice for two years. Love the AME work also the main reasons why I want to be a float pilot (seasonal work ).
I would be more than great-full that if you guys can help me out with some tips for me.
If possible, would you be kind enough PM me with a list of operators in Bc that I should stay away from.
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Dave Budd at Ocean Air in Victoria http://oceanair.ca
Randy Hanna at Pacific Seaplanes in Nanaimo http://www.pacificseaplanes.biz/index.htm
Fort Langley Air http://www.fortlangleyair.com

off the top of my head...

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North Shore wrote:Dave Budd at Ocean Air in Victoria http://oceanair.ca
Randy Hanna at Pacific Seaplanes in Nanaimo http://www.pacificseaplanes.biz/index.htm
Fort Langley Air http://www.fortlangleyair.com

off the top of my head...

Have Fun!
Thank you north shore.
I will calll them soon.
Once again thank you.
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This has to be the most depressing post I have read on avcanada, but unfortunately, there is truth to this post. Over the past few years in school, they were feeding us BS pipe dreams of flying for the regionals through the cadet programs by now. I get emails from the cadet programs about once every couple months and I usually hit the delete button quicker then I can open the email.
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I wouldn't say it was BS they were feeding you. It was pretty much true until COVID hit..
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It is a lottery. You never know when your numbers come up and you get that great job. You won't get it sitting at home, but it won't be easy either. The regionals are, and always have been, extremely picky about who they want, regardless of what people say.
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