Stanton Territorial Medevac Contract

[seriousflyer]

Anyone know the latest on this contract for the NWT. The RFP (bid) said the successful company would be disclosed April 11th.

[midwingcrisis]

Perhaps waiting for ownership/partnership DNA? Takes a while sometimes to sort through.

[seriousflyer]

Maybe that's it.

I would think if a new contract is going to be awarded to different company other than Air Tindi then the new company would need a lot of notice to be up and running in September.

[seriousflyer]

The announcement appears to be on hold for another 6 weeks...

[YYZSaabGuy]

SF, I haven't been able to find anything on-line - is anybody commenting officially on why the delay?

[godsrcrazy]

They are probably trying to figure a way to give it back to the same company that has had it from the start as they have every other time its been tendered. In the past when the GNWT wrote the contract spec's the only thing they didn't put in there was it had to have AT on the tail.

[Brantford Beech Boy]

rumour has it they are rethinking the rfp cause all the bids came in way higher than they anticipated....

apparently they thought that demanding aircraft no older than 6 years would not drive the cost up?

BBB

[YYZSaabGuy]

apparently they thought that demanding aircraft no older than 6 years would not drive the cost up?BBB

I wonder why that particular requirement was included. I can understand stipulating equipment types and capabilities, minimum dispatch times, basing requirements, dispatch reliability, hangar requirements, staffing levels, and all that rigmarole in addition to the usual licensing and OC standards. But aircraft age? What were they trying to get at?

[Liquid Charlie]

But aircraft age? What were they trying to get at?

They are studying Orange -- who needs more than one stinking engine

[Brantford Beech Boy]

again, I have only heard second hand....but,

the newer aircraft was due to the contract being a 10 year award...they didnt want to have to pay to replace some of the current aging fleet of kingairs...

bbb

[arctic_slim]

Someone told me that Summit Air also put in a bid on the contract and some of the AT guys are worried they might lose the contract to them and be out of a job.
Last I checked Summit does not have the equipment to take on a medivac contract. I doubt they're going to put medivacs on Do228s. Do you guys think its spossible for summit to quickly get a bunch of planes and set up all the logistics to make this happen? Im guessing there must be a plan if they actually put in a bid, I just dont see how they could get everything set up so fast.

[fish4life]

There is a medevac operator out of Baffin Island and kivalliq region running king airs though...

[seriousflyer]

Someone told me that Summit Air also put in a bid on the contract and some of the AT guys are worried they might lose the contract to them and be out of a job.
Im guessing there must be a plan if they actually put in a bid, I just dont see how they could get everything set up so fast.

Oh yea...anything is possible when you are talking a 10 year medevac contract worth I'd guess 60-100 million. King airs and buildings can be ascertained over the weekend.
I believe the new contract will be a vast improvement from current standards, not that the present standards are low, but in order to move forward with 10 more years of flying, they should update the operation to sustain through year 2024. I'm guessing the Government probably wanted all NEW planes with OLD budget...not going to work, re submit bids or re do RFP.

[godsrcrazy]

Someone told me that Summit Air also put in a bid on the contract and some of the AT guys are worried they might lose the contract to them and be out of a job.
Im guessing there must be a plan if they actually put in a bid, I just dont see how they could get everything set up so fast.

Oh yea...anything is possible when you are talking a 10 year medevac contract worth I'd guess 60-100 million. King airs and buildings can be ascertained over the weekend.
I believe the new contract will be a vast improvement from current standards, not that the present standards are low, but in order to move forward with 10 more years of flying, they should update the operation to sustain through year 2024. I'm guessing the Government probably wanted all NEW planes with OLD budget...not going to work, re submit bids or re do RFP.

Watch and see they will cancel the RFP and negotiate with the present carrier to extend for a year or 2. They have done this in the past. Rumour has it there were several bidders. As far as Summit not having planes they are a Ledcor company. Ledcor has the money to buy new planes without going to the bank.

[Donald]

First off, when there's a requirement like "6 years or newer" in a RFP, isn't that tailored for a particular company?

Secondly, this would be the same contract that last time around was low-balled by Tindi (now Discovery) to keep it from ASC (now Summit/Ledcor), to the extent that part-way into it they had to re-negotiate the rate in order to keep from going bankrupt. Something the GNWT was more or less forced to do, since they had just loaned Discovery a pile of $$$ to setup an office in YZF.

[rigpiggy]

I would like to see a straight ops contract, the government owns the planes and leases for 1$/yr. The contract has all the performance targets. They simply have to crew and maintain them with govt supplied parts. At end of contract fleet sold for residual value, new planes bought, repeat as necessary.

[arctic_slim]

Someone told me that Summit Air also put in a bid on the contract and some of the AT guys are worried they might lose the contract to them and be out of a job.
Im guessing there must be a plan if they actually put in a bid, I just dont see how they could get everything set up so fast.

Oh yea...anything is possible when you are talking a 10 year medevac contract worth I'd guess 60-100 million. King airs and buildings can be ascertained over the weekend.
I believe the new contract will be a vast improvement from current standards, not that the present standards are low, but in order to move forward with 10 more years of flying, they should update the operation to sustain through year 2024. I'm guessing the Government probably wanted all NEW planes with OLD budget...not going to work, re submit bids or re do RFP.

Watch and see they will cancel the RFP and negotiate with the present carrier to extend for a year or 2. They have done this in the past. Rumour has it there were several bidders. As far as Summit not having planes they are a Ledcor company. Ledcor has the money to buy new planes without going to the bank.

Interesting. I forgot Ledcor is made of money, they can just buy Tindi if they really want the contract haha It would be quite a big epansion for Ledcor/Summit, first RJs now Medivac (if it happens).

[godsrcrazy]

Oh yea...anything is possible when you are talking a 10 year medevac contract worth I'd guess 60-100 million. King airs and buildings can be ascertained over the weekend.
I believe the new contract will be a vast improvement from current standards, not that the present standards are low, but in order to move forward with 10 more years of flying, they should update the operation to sustain through year 2024. I'm guessing the Government probably wanted all NEW planes with OLD budget...not going to work, re submit bids or re do RFP.[/quote]

Watch and see they will cancel the RFP and negotiate with the present carrier to extend for a year or 2. They have done this in the past. Rumour has it there were several bidders. As far as Summit not having planes they are a Ledcor company. Ledcor has the money to buy new planes without going to the bank.[/quote]

Interesting. I forgot Ledcor is made of money, they can just buy Tindi if they really want the contract haha It would be quite a big epansion for Ledcor/Summit, first RJs now Medivac (if it happens).[/quote]

Ledcor i snot made of money. They have the financial backing to buy what they need to back up what ever they bid on. I am sure if they bid this it was with board approval to buy what ever they need to do the job.

That being said i see in Friday Yellowknifer a request for proposal RFP #14103 for air ambulance services including flight crew and air medical crew.

Looks like the GNWT aspirations was bigger then their budget.

[single_swine_herder]

Crud ..... looks like all that work will need to be redone and rejigged to a lower standard.

Appears the next move by the govt will be to cancel the older RFP.

Whoever gets awarded the contract, there is a huge amount of work to be done to establish a a state of the art medevac service for the winner.

http://www.contractregistry.nt.ca/Publi ... D=PM016288

[godsrcrazy]

Any word on this. Last i heard it went back out for proposal and was to be awarded before October 1.