King Air 200/B1900D Weight and Balance Form

[Jumbo744]

Hello Guys,

I would like to know if any of you guys would mind sharing any excel or manual weight and balance form for the King Air 200 and B1900D please? other than the ones in the AFM.

I would like to get some ideas and see how to improve the ones we use in my company.

Thanks!

[NotDirty!]

Just load up, and if the door doesn't touch the ground, you're good to go! It's a little more complicated in the 1900, but if your nose wheel isn't touching the ground, don't go!


But seriously, I'm not sure what you're looking for. Weight x Arm = Moment. If you know two of the values, you can calculate the other. Excel is a really good calculator! Conditional formatting will let you add alerts if you are near or over a limit.
If you just want an easier method for cg calculations, buy a wiz wheel from these guys:
http://www.seegeesolutions.com/index.html

Good luck

[single_swine_herder]

Just a quick comment .... what does it say in your approved COM that is supposed to be used in the organization?

[Jumbo744]

Hi,

thanks for the replies. For the B200 our COM says to use the weight and balance from Jeppesen Flitestar, but being in Africa flying in remote areas, we sometimes can't print those W&B Reports.

For the B1900D, we have a weight and balance form that we fill in manually before each leg.

I want to see other available options for the 1900D to compare to ours and I'd like a form that can be filled manually for the 200.

[bobcaygeon]

For C of G, use a SEEGEE calculator.

Any excel type program is only good for "predicting" C of G unless you have assigned seating to determine M/F seating distribution. How do I know?? We had a program but TC gladly pointed out we have to assign seating or use SEEGEE.

[single_swine_herder]

The SeeGee calculator is excellent and quick. Its one of our approved methods.

[rigpiggy]

And ceegee wheel with a spreadsheet of weights is pretty much the fastest most accurate way to do your weight and balance

[Jumbo744]

Hello Guys,

thank you all for your inputs!

Cheers

[Brantford Beech Boy]

as an alternative to SeeGee, you can go to http://www.flyincg.com/

We used to use this on the 200 when I flew in the Caribbean. Does both Weight and Balance at the same time without any math required...

Cheers
BBB

[NotDirty!]

For C of G, use a SEEGEE calculator.

Any excel type program is only good for "predicting" C of G unless you have assigned seating to determine M/F seating distribution. How do I know?? We had a program but TC gladly pointed out we have to assign seating or use SEEGEE.

I am curious, how does it work that you don't have to assign seating with the SEEGEE, but do if you're using excel. The basis of the SEEGEE is the same math that excel uses... that's the great thing about math: it works the same in any language! If the SEEGEE uses zones, and bases the result on how much weight you have in that zone, there should be a specification somewhere that defines what the station is for that zone, so using excel should give you an identical result, if you follow the standard weight x arm = moment. SEEGEE will even give you the formula to convert moments or CGs to their index, if you want to compare.

[turbo-prop]

For C of G, use a SEEGEE calculator.

Any excel type program is only good for "predicting" C of G unless you have assigned seating to determine M/F seating distribution. How do I know?? We had a program but TC gladly pointed out we have to assign seating or use SEEGEE.

I am curious, how does it work that you don't have to assign seating with the SEEGEE, but do if you're using excel. The basis of the SEEGEE is the same math that excel uses... that's the great thing about math: it works the same in any language! If the SEEGEE uses zones, and bases the result on how much weight you have in that zone, there should be a specification somewhere that defines what the station is for that zone, so using excel should give you an identical result, if you follow the standard weight x arm = moment. SEEGEE will even give you the formula to convert moments or CGs to their index, if you want to compare.

You can use the seegee wheel sitting in the flight deck. You look back and see where everyone is sitting and plot it. You could do that with an excel spreadsheet as well if you put one on an ipad or laptop and plot it while seeing where everyone is sitting. Guessing from the pilot office doesn't work if they don't sit where you think they might sit.