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Couldn't he just get that gear out a little earlier... probably didn't have the time to lock?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... _sf9OK8P6k
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Well that was embarrassing!

I know nothing about Sea Fury landing gear systems, but I bet they probably like to have a few more seconds allowed, to build up hydraulic pressure to assure locked down, before touchdown. Again, we are reminded to pace ourselves while flying, and in particular, changing configuration.
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At least he didn't try and take it back in the air.....
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Wasn't there a thread in here a few weeks ago where it was very pointedly pointed out that irreplacable vintage aircraft are not the platforms in which to be showing off to everybody what a hotshot pilot you believe you are?
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I read somewhere else about this incident, and from what I understand, there were a couple different failures he was dealing with. It seems as though something on the engine went kerput causing a loss of power, followed by an issue with the hydraulics or landing gear system. I believe that when they do finally come down just prior to touchdown he was using the emergency system, just by the speed at which they came down and bounced off the locks.

Now all that being said, it was typical media reports I was reading, so there is a fairly large margin of error there :mrgreen:

Also, there is a sprinkling of my own speculation based on the little bit I know about Sea Furies, and having maintained a few hydraulic landing gear systems. :rolleyes:
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Better know the story before passing any quick judgment :wink:

My understanding is that his engine started to run rough during his display.
He closed the throttle, gained some altitude with the inertia, put gear down and when he went to add power nothing happened. He then raised the gear realizing that he would not make the threshold. Unfortunately his gear didn't have time to lock down once within reach of the runway.

Just issues with his engine as far as I know.
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TG wrote:Better know the story before passing any quick judgment
You're right.. I watched the video with audio off, didn't read the description and assumed that he'd dropped the gear at the last second just for show.
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GyvAir wrote:
TG wrote:Better know the story before passing any quick judgment
You're right.. I watched the video with audio off, didn't read the description and assumed that he'd dropped the gear at the last second just for show.
:smt040
Though it was a stunt too.
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Wasn't there a thread in here a few weeks ago where it was very pointedly pointed out that irreplacable vintage aircraft are not the platforms in which to be showing off to everybody what a hotshot pilot you believe you are?
I think the guy who spends millions building them should get to decide. Otherwise nobody would bother and you would never see them fly. Also these planes are often 99% new parts with an original dataplate and perhapse a crankcase so not always as original as you think!
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timel wrote:I think the guy who spends millions building them should get to decide...
Yes, if it's solely their own investment, it's theirs to do with as they please. If it's a museum or collectively owned aircraft, it gets more complicated, obviously. I'm taking the side of the fly-with-extra-caution argument in the same light as the restrictions put in place by some jurisdictions on historical buildings. Sure, it's your building if you bought it and pay the taxes and upkeep on it, but with ownership of a piece of history comes additional perceived and sometimes legal responsibilities that don't apply to a newer building. I don't know what, if any such restrictions happen to exist with regards to historical aircraft.

Anyways, as I said previously, at the time when I first posted in this thread, I thought the clip was of someone flying unnecessarily recklessly. (regardless of the age or history of the aircraft)
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Anyways, as I said previously, at the time when I first posted in this thread, I thought the clip was of someone flying unnecessarily recklessly. (regardless of the age or history of the aircraft)
We see that video differently.

I see someone with superb aircraft handling skills demonstrating a fighter aircraft at an airshow flying benign maneuvers very smoothly.
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In case I wasn't clear in my two previous recantings of my tone in my original post in this thread, I was referring only to extending the gear only moments before touching down. When I first watched the video, I assumed he was showing off and got caught with his pants down... I didn't realize that he had engine trouble and was leaving the gear up in a bid to make the runway. I have no issue with any of the maneouvers or the flying skills exhibited in the video.
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Am I the only one that is noticing "Braking" instead of "Breaking"
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The Sea Furry has a bad habit of cartwheeling if one of the mains are not locked. With the loss of engine power he lost the hydraulics, I say he did a good job getting the thing back on the ground in Mostly one piece.
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f.o.ever wrote:Am I the only one that is noticing "Braking" instead of "Breaking"
Nope.

I had no idea what the hell the topic was about by reading the title.

I've long since realized most pilots are functionally illiterate, but guess what? Vowels DO matter.

Oh and uh, yeah, the Sea Fury thing. Sucks.
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