Mr. Martin wants my money, I don't want to give it to him!

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:15 am

CID wrote:You aren't able to work within the system.

Neither were the Jews in Germany in the 1930's but I don't think you can blame them entirely for that, either.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:35 am

CID :

I'm not sure if you are with TC or just someone that has not got a clue about me or how TC really works behind their closed doors.

You say..

" I see that I was right. You aren't able to work within the system. "

Jeeses CID how stupid can one person be, I am in Europe and not only am I working within the system, the system has gone out of their way to give me exemptions to fly here without jumping through all the hoops to get the JAR licenses. How many Canadians do you know who are that well qualified and can show a past record clean enough to get special approvals from a system as tough as the JAA system?

Give your head a shake and quit making such idiotic posts.

For your information I worked within the system in Canada all my career, however when the top managers of TC break the law to prevent me from working within the system I am now free to work outside "THEIR" corrupt system..

One last time CID, do you get it?

Oh hell I guess you are truly lacking in the ability to think clearly...has it not occured to you that I am publically stating that I am going to challenge these maggots and defy them openly?

So why don't you just sit back and watch, I'm betting that they do not have the balls to go to the wall with this one. If they do it will really give the public a good look at how sociopaths manage to infiltrate the system and are protected.

Cat

CID · Post by **CID** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:03 am

For your information I worked within the system in Canada all my career, however when the top managers of TC break the law to prevent me from working within the system I am now free to work outside "THEIR" corrupt system..

You keep telling me I'm "idotic" for saying you don't work within the system, but continue to admit that you don't. Keep it up slugger. I won't be intimidated by your insults and rhetoric.

If you want to call someone idiotic or stupid, start with the guy who is comparing your Transport Canada woes with the plight the Jews suffered in Nazi Germany.

hz2p, give your head a shake!

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:01 am

CID · Post by **CID** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:09 am

Let me guess CID, you're a Liberal who works for - correction, is employed by - Transport, am I right?

Nope. I see by your response that you didn't take my advice. You really are off the deep end.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:15 am

Let me know when the, "I know you are but what am I" and other brilliant insults start flying. I wouldn't want to miss that intellectual discussion.

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:27 am

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:31 am

If your lips are tired, here's an interesting excerpt:

(Congressman) Blunt said the Inspector General's office also found the abuse of power by the FAA preceded two other fatal crashes. Blunt said they won't give more information than that.

I guess both me and the Inspector General of the DOT, and Congressman Blunt are all off the deep end.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:16 pm

CID, because I am not really busy right now I have time to educate you.

You said:

" You keep telling me I'm "idotic" for saying you don't work within the system, but continue to admit that you don't. Keep it up slugger. I won't be intimidated by your insults and rhetoric. "

I have clearly stated that I have always worked within the system and still do. I have never been accused of wrongdoing within the system for the fifty three years that I have been flying.

However when I return to Canada I intend to do what ever I need to do to continue to earn money flying, and that includes ignoring any TC rule that I may have to.

The problem with this issue is it was TC that was in contrevention of law and all their policies, not me, therefore I will ignore them from now on.

Do you get it now?

If you really are convinced that I am wrong and you are right, please contact the Director General Civil Aviation and have him read this and lets see if he has the balls to deny that I have enough on him to give him an Excedrin headache that he could not cure....remember I believe that he is a moral degenerate unfit for the office he holds...and I have documentation to support my beliefe...with his signature on it....

So there is a challenge for you CID.

. .... Canadian ATPL# AA38841

There you go CID, I have even put my license number there for the DGCA in case he has lost it.

CID · Post by **CID** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:34 pm

you get it now?

Hell son, I had you figured out from the start. Same old same old.

hz2p, you sure are grasping at straws. No matter what obscure news you drag up, you won't convince me that there is a significant number of instances of TC or FAA people who "arrange circumstances which result in fatal accidents for pilots." Paranoid fantasies.

smooth1 · Post by **smooth1** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:49 pm

Wow! Some of you cats really need to attend an Anger Management Course and come to grips with everything! Best of luck.

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:14 pm

CID: I see you have no interest in the facts. Were you dropped repeatedly on your head as a small child? Or were both your parents equipped with substandard IQ's? Or perhaps you went for sustained durations of time without oxygen?

I guess there's one thing we can count on - you'll keep on voting Liberal for more corrupt government.

CID · Post by **CID** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:55 pm

Were you dropped repeatedly on your head as a small child? Or were both your parents equipped with substandard IQ's? Or perhaps you went for sustained durations of time without oxygen?

Is that all you got? Insults? Attaboy sport. Keep it coming. Show us what you're made of.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:08 pm

" Wow! Some of you cats really need to attend an Anger Management Course and come to grips with everything! Best of luck. "

Smooth1 :

Naw, this has nothing to do with needing an anger management course.

For me it really does not matter how many CID's you have to work with, but for you I would suggest that you read all his posts and maybe you will come to the conclusion that aviation in Canada is really screwed up with people who have no moral compass.

In other words smooth1 it is no wonder that aviation is one of the worst careers you can get into when there are so many CID who blindly accept being hammered by the system and think it is cool.

You will note that he has zero to offer except defense of the indefensible.

All the best.

Cat

bee tee · Post by **bee tee** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:12 am

Cat Driver wrote:aviation is one of the worst careers you can get into when there are so many CID who blindly accept being hammered by the system and think it is cool.

Cat,

I totally agree with you on this one. It is a trade-off between injustice and disorder. In general, most people in Canada prefer injustice over disorder and it is not only present in aviation.

Maybe we're too nice.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:18 am

" Maybe we're too nice. "

Utva::

Probably most are to nice, however in aviation the reason we have the CID mentality is because most aviation people fear the power of any TC official, so rather than become a target they submit and accept bullying as just another hoop to jump through.

I'm different, as you can see there came a time when I finally decided I would not submit to sociopaths that get their orgasms making others suffer.

As you can plainly see, I may be a lot of things to a lot of people but I am not afraid to stand up for what I believe is the right thing to do...

..and have you noticed that fear works two ways? I have given the DGCA every reason to take action against my allegations...but fear of the news media is why he remains silent.

And believe me they have had enough lawyers trying to figure out how to side track me and so far my guess is that they fear me more than I fear them.

As you probably know they sent the top dog in Transport to my home to try and intimidate me, the f.cker is lucky he got out of my home in one piece....

So what do you think of that?

Cat

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:26 am

Two words:

Bob Hoover

I know, I know, another irrelevant, isolated incident which should be disregarded because it doesn't show the authorities in a good light

It is the nature of large bureaucracies to be filled with lazy, incompetent people who are often quite insecure, because they couldn't succeed in the private sector.

It is also the nature of large bureaucracies to cover up problems when they occur, to avoid making the bureaucracy "look bad".

Roman Catholic church, anyone ... anyone? Last I heard they'd buggered so many small boys in Massachusetts - and worse, tried to cover it up - they'd declared bankruptcy to try to avoid paying what had been awarded in civil court to the victims.

Great bunch of guys. Been to mass lately, CID?

monkeyspankmasterflex · Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:18 am

You're all living in the past man. You won't enjoy life if you keep worrying about the time your panties got caught in the door. It's a very thin line between pride, ego and common sense.

Might as well go for a soda.

CID · Post by **CID** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:38 am

Cat, I guess I should be flattered that you have chosen me as your new focal point for your rage against “the man”.

Fortunately, I’ve been able to successfully work within the system. I’ve had plenty of conflicts, but I’ve been able to resolve them without swearing at women or threatening violence. I guess that’s just the kind of person I am.

I wish you good luck in your future fights with authority. We need people like you to keep the big bad government on their toes and to make the rest of us look good.

Roman Catholic church, anyone ... anyone? Last I heard they'd buggered so many small boys in Massachusetts - and worse, tried to cover it up - they'd declared bankruptcy to try to avoid paying what had been awarded in civil court to the victims.

Thats awesome! Thanks for that hz2p. Its been quite a boring day so far and I needed a good laugh. I wonder if any of those little boys in MA became pilots? Maybe thats the connection between buggered little boys and this thread. Cat, ever been to Massachusetts? That might explain your statement:

I'm different, as you can see there came a time when I finally decided I would not submit to sociopaths that get their orgasms making others suffer.

hz2p · Post by **hz2p** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:58 am

I would be very interested to get your RAMO's opinion on whether or not your enjoyment at sexual child abuse would be disqualifying for both a Category 1 and 3 medical as per CAR Standard 424 - PHYSICAL AND MENTAL REQUIREMENT table:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Regse ... t42402.htm

as per 1.3(d) and 3.3(d) which both state that the applicant shall have no other significant mental abnormality.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:59 am

O.K. CID, you finally have proven to everyone here how tenuous your grasp on this subject really is by that last pathetic jab at my posts.

" Cat, ever been to Massachusetts? That might explain your statement:

Quote:
I'm different, as you can see there came a time when I finally decided I would not submit to sociopaths that get their orgasms making others suffer. "

If you do not have the brain power to know the difference between a sociopath and a pedophile as is evident from your last post I will now ignore you before the rest of the gang figure I'm losing my common sense.

Cat

CID · Post by **CID** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:32 pm

So Cat, you're trying to tell me that a pedophile ISN'T a sociopath? Are pedophiles normally adjusted people who are just misunderstood?

Anyway...maybe its time to end this thread. Its veered way off course into hostile territory and should be shot down.

bee tee · Post by **bee tee** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:50 pm

Cat,

There is nothing more useless than trying to prove something to idiots. These idiots are not ready to accept ideas that are not coincident with their narrow sense of reality.

And a big congratulations to CID for being "able to successfully work withing the system."

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:31 pm

Utva:

I use Avcanada as a method to pass my time when I am not actually working, sometimes I wonder if there is any real hope for what I thought was an industry or rather career to spend your whole life in. However there seems to be a proliferation of truly a frightening mindset infiltrating the aviation industry and CID is a good example.

There was a time when most people could deferentiate between normal decent behavior and sociopathic behaviour. It appears that the lines have been blurred and accepting bully tactics from those in a position of power such as working for TC is now seen as some sort of badge of honor.

I find that to be troubling for the simple fact it reinforces the will of those who abuse their power when dealing with their clients...us the worker bees in the industry.

You could not find a better example of this type of individual than several that work for TC Civil Aviation in the Pacific Region, there is or rather was an internal report written about bully tactics and abuse of power in the top levels of TC M&M management in the Pacific Region written by Bonita Smith.

The report was so damming that it was rewritten, I have a copy of the origional and when the Regional Director Transport Canada Pacific Region found out someone in their system sent it to me he went ballastic and the report was rewritten...

...the good part is I still have a copy and it clearly shows that the Regional Director TCCA tried to protect his underlings by putting up a smoke screen that was so obvious it was breathtaking.

As I have stated over and over, when those at the top are morally corrupt it filters down through the whole system.

Cat

Expat · Post by **Expat** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:44 pm

Hello Cat,

I normally agree with you that TC screwed you and you were not given all opportunities to run a flight school. There is however something that stands out in many of your posts. I think it is mostly due to antagonizing nature. It did create a lot of problems for you in a small industry like aviation, where we all know each other, and your reactions to it ensured that you were done for good.
Having said that, I see that now you want to take it on to the canadian government. I think it is going a bit too far. We in Canada have always enjoyed so much freedom and even leniency from prosecution, that we should not use your case for Liberal bashing. In a lot of other countries, like USA, they would have gone after your license, and your medical too, after declaring you insane. In Russia, you would be chopping wood up north to heat the banya, and in some though countries, in jail.
Cheers, it could be worse. After all, you are still flying...