Airmanship in a non radar environement

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Airmanship in a non radar environement

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If the weather is bad and there are few aircrafts around you almost ready to go, don't get your clearance if your engines are not started or if you are not ready to go.

It will help keeping some positive thinking and karma.
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A little trick that not a lot of people use is to ask for your route, not your clearance. That way you can program your FMC or GPS get ready then when your engines are running and your ready to go ask for your clearance.
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jpilot77 wrote:A little trick that not a lot of people use is to ask for your route, not your clearance. That way you can program your FMC or GPS get ready then when your engines are running and your ready to go ask for your clearance.
I have never heard that before. I will do that as to be more accommodating to others that might be ready faster.
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jpilot77 wrote:A little trick that not a lot of people use is to ask for your route, not your clearance. That way you can program your FMC or GPS get ready then when your engines are running and your ready to go ask for your clearance.
Awesome! Makes sens actually, thanks for the tip.
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I also didn't know you could do this till a US Citation crew were trying to get out of Mont-Tremblant while we were coming in. They asked for their clearance and we're told to wait, then he asked to get his route and Montreal Centre gave it to him. I'm gonna try it the next time I go into CYSJ.
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And don't taxi onto a single runway, tying it up for everyone else, until the biscuit-shooters have finished their stuff and are ready to go :evil:
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Just take the vfr and pick it up in the air
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leftoftrack wrote:Just take the vfr and pick it up in the air
When it is possible, yes a visual departure is just more simple, not always good for the fuels flows. :lol:
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North Shore wrote:And don't taxi onto a single runway, tying it up for everyone else, until the biscuit-shooters have finished their stuff and are ready to go :evil:
I never do, and fwiw I never call them biscuit-shooters either. They might save your life one day...
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I Do, treat them mean keep them keen

They love it
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As general comment of flying in a non radar area; don't lie about your position; had that happen in the Caribbean and it caused a real cock up for more than just me.

We where just on topping a mandatory position to an airport when an aircraft reported he was at the same point when in reality he was 5-7 miles behind us ( TCAS). Try and get that explained to a controller who English is his 2nd language; and there a total of 5 aircraft in trail as set up by Miami center.
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Don't be this guy either.
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