Porter selling off its terminal.

[midwingcrisis]

The LCBO sale leaseback looks far more lucrative. Liberals would have you fixed and profitable with guarantees forever. No ferry or tunnel. Monopoly business to the core. Do I hear 200 million for an opening bid?....

[xchox]

Why is it worth so much?

Business capital of Canada...and that terminal is pretty much a business hub for anyone doing business in Toronto.

[ei ei owe]

Your just over reacting

Alot of people would beg to differ..

To bad nobody commented earlier... That was a pretty good one!

[Boreas]

Some observations:
-They stopped serving Stella and Keiths for Steamwhistle

That's definitely a plus!

[The Raven]

Your just over reacting

Alot of people would beg to differ..

To bad nobody commented earlier... That was a pretty good one!

It's a mute point anyway.

[MCB]

It's a mute point anyway.

It's all water under the fridge. You can go to college and get your PFD for all I care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfq3c4Cf1Fs

[Maxpwr]

It's a mute point anyway. [/quote]

Mute???

[Beach 200]

Crew meals have gotten pretty rank there too and it use to be really good when Bagel boys had the contract. If you look at the company as a whole over the last 7 years. It's easy to see all the money pinching cost savings they have been doing. Selling the terminal is the first step of a cash flow issue. You don't sell something that makes you money to expand the airline further and hope to revive the cash flow.
Porters problem alone is the city Airport. It's not airline friendly. They have more irrops operating there then say Pearson or Montreal. You don't see the other Porter bases using real airports have any issues. When irrops happen, porter loses money.

[WhiskeyWhiskey]

Crew meals have gotten pretty rank there too and it use to be really good when Bagel boys had the contract. If you look at the company as a whole over the last 7 years. It's easy to see all the money pinching cost savings they have been doing. Selling the terminal is the first step of a cash flow issue. You don't sell something that makes you money to expand the airline further and hope to revive the cash flow.
Porters problem alone is the city Airport. It's not airline friendly. They have more irrops operating there then say Pearson or Montreal. You don't see the other Porter bases using real airports have any issues. When irrops happen, porter loses money.

I heard the crews at porter are pretty miserable too.

I was using porter with my wife on a fog day and porter couldn't get in or out. Yet Cameron Air and Island Air were still operating. The only reason I noticed was because some lady started going off about how the heck can't a porter plane fly when clearly those two crappy planes are flying. She was pointing out the window and I saw CA's 206 taking off while a 182 was taxiing. I don't remember the registration but I looked it up and that one belonged to IA. Absolutely hilarious.

All things aside... I hope the best for them. Lot's of people make their living there. Sadly, what affects porter is the same disease that affects most airlines... Incompetent management.

[airliner]

I can't help but laugh when the negative comments come from people that use to of just don't work at Porter, and all the positive remark come from employees.
Stick to what you know and not what you think or heard.
Blood lust is dangerous

[WhiskeyWhiskey]

I can't help but laugh when the negative comments come from people that use to of just don't work at Porter, and all the positive remark come from employees.
Stick to what you know and not what you think or heard.
Blood lust is dangerous

I wouldn't kid yourself. I fly porter quite often. You would be surprised at the self-damaging conversations you hear among the current employees there.

[timel]

I know some people who fly porter on a daily base, and they love it. I am surprised about the porter bashing.

CYTZ is a great airport, yes minimums are little higher even for ILS, but you don't get fog all year long, worst scenario you get to go to Pearson.

[photofly]

I was using porter with my wife on a fog day and porter couldn't get in or out. Yet Cameron Air and Island Air were still operating.

Can't speak for Cameron, but IA: not a chance in hell. Maintenance run up, perhaps, or taxiing for a compass swing.

[xchox]

I was using porter with my wife on a fog day and porter couldn't get in or out. Yet Cameron Air and Island Air were still operating.

Can't speak for Cameron, but IA: not a chance in hell. Maintenance run up, perhaps, or taxiing for a compass swing.

Actually RAF... It did go up. I know... I was on that IA plane.

[pitot.]

I was using porter with my wife on a fog day and porter couldn't get in or out. Yet Cameron Air and Island Air were still operating.

Can't speak for Cameron, but IA: not a chance in hell. Maintenance run up, perhaps, or taxiing for a compass swing.

I used to work at IA, I think that was me...

I miss uncle Mel's flying circus

[photofly]

Just like you still use Loran.

BS.

[midwingcrisis]

I still like the LCBO deal. Who cares about fog days, real airports, crappy planes or crew meals.

[The Raven]

It's a mute point anyway.

Mute???[/quote]

I think you misunderstood that part of the thread. It was intentional.

Definition of moot: Like a cow's opinion, it doesn't matter anyway.

[Viewsonic]

With regards to the grounds crew at cytz unionizing.
First of all they only needed 30% (or something close to this) of the crew to vote yes to a union.
The guys who spear headed the movement had been trying to do it for over five years. Eventually that kind of determination will prevail.

[xchox]

Just like you still use Loran.

BS.

BS?
1) I preferred Loran... I don't use it. I did turn it on once to get a rise out of all the "smart, educated, and experienced people" on here. Turns out few on here can take a joke. Feel free to see:
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... an#p854770

2) Did you see the picture pitot. put up? If that still is not proof enough... Feel to check the journey log books of both TBI and OPE... Compare that to a date I am sure pitot. would be more then happy to give you and then check the weather history on that specific date. I'm fairly sure you don't have to look back far considering how little both those planes get used.

[photofly]

What the heck has Pitot's VFR-day photograph got to do with anything? If WhiskyWhisky can give us the date he was referring to, and if you insist, I'll check the logs.