frozen solid wrote:That is a very unusual structure inside the wing... I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before. Is it some kind of Barnes-Wallace-inspired geodetic thing?
Amazing concept indeed!
RB
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That is a Lockheed 10A Electra, CF-BAF serial # 1064 registered to Canadian Airways in 1936. It went on to TCA in 1937. It eventually went to the USA but came back to Canada as CF-HED. It was written off after a precautionary landing in poor weather on Anticosti Island in October 1967.
Sorry about that, gentlemen. You are right. I've had this in my files for years now and have forgotten to rename it. When I first found it in a long-gone forum, I had just gotten a computer and was just learning the ways of the Internet. When first seen, it was labelled as a Barkley-Grow but was afterwards identified as a Lockheed.
Please forgive.
Chris
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dogsbodymk1 wrote:Sorry about hat, gentlemen. You are right. I've had this in my files for years now and have forgotten to rename it. When I first found it in a long-gone forum, I had just gotten a computer and was just learning the ways of the Internet. When first seen, it was labelled as a Barkley-Grow but was afterwards identified as a Lockheed.
Please forgive.
Hey no problem, easy assumption to make. I just looked at a warbirds forum website: www.warbirdsforum.com.
It takes a bit of digging but there is a history of every Barkley Grow along with a few pics. There is the story about Jimmy Wade in CF-BMV going down off the coast of Greenland in 1942. The photo attached is of a Lockheed 10A. Probably CF-BAF with a different antenae setup.
I finally took some time to upload some pics I took of BTX back in around 1990. It had been salvaged by Coulson Industries from a Coastal BC logging site, from what I've been told. They were heli-logging and found the wreck and decided to pull her out of the woods. The shots are from the original Coulson Hangar at the defunct Port Alberni Airport.
So which story is true? Did it crash in Alberta or over here on the BC Coast? I knew it was sent to the museum in Alberta, when the above mentioned airport was closed. Somebody please put the story straight.
Dibbley wrote:I finally took some time to upload some pics I took of BTX back in around 1990. It had been salvaged by Coulson Industries from a Coastal BC logging site, from what I've been told. They were heli-logging and found the wreck and decided to pull her out of the woods. The shots are from the original Coulson Hangar at the defunct Port Alberni Airport.
So which story is true? Did it crash in Alberta or over here on the BC Coast? I knew it was sent to the museum in Alberta, when the above mentioned airport was closed. Somebody please put the story straight.
BTX definitely crashed at Porcupine/Kakwa Lk BC nw of Grande Cache AB. The first photo I posted shows the wreck with the letters BTX on the right side of the fuselage. I took the photo on Sept 4, 1981 while flying my aircraft from Prince George east to Red Deer. Went north of track for awhile. How BTX got to Port Alberni I do not know. In any case it was at Calgary later on. I took the photo of it behind the museum. Hope this helps.
"Here is a photo of Canadian Pacific Airlines Barkley-Grow CF-BTX that had some problems at Kawka/Porcupine Lake near Cache Creek in 1945. I took the photo in Sept 1981"
Coulson Industries was doing a lot of heli-logging off of their barge back in those years and my recollection of the story was they found BTX up on the mid-coast of BC. I checked a few of my reference books and it would seem that BTX went down in Alberta. Maybe someone else with Coulson connections from these years can fill in the details.
By my read, the crash happened more near the Saskatchewan/Alberta border - that is what I ascertained when I googled 'Cache Creek - Alberta' yesterday afternoon. I knew it was heading to the museum in Alberta, when my pics were taken but how it got to Vancouver Island inbetween is anyone's guess.
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Dibbley wrote:By my read, the crash happened more near the Saskatchewan/Alberta border - that is what I ascertained when I googled 'Cache Creek - Alberta' yesterday afternoon. I knew it was heading to the museum in Alberta, when my pics were taken but how it got to Vancouver Island inbetween is anyone's guess.
Feel free to use my pics for you Facebook page. No credit required.
No. Porcupine Lake later re-named Kakwa Lake is in BC just west of the BC-Alberta border. It is about 40 miles NW of Grande Cache AB. Google it. Kakwa Lake is a fairly large running north-south and is now a BC provincial park.