Wheels Down in Ten
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Wheels Down in Ten
Personally, I hate this phrase. If you're landing in ten, say so. Hopefully, the wheels will be down before this event. Still waiting for some knob to call "wheels down in ten..." Then land wheels up.
It's like "ABC is forty nautical miles south......" WTF other kind of miles are there in this scenario?
Do FTU's really teach this crap?
And some of you, please learn to park your Navajos to leave room for others? There will be others.
When you see a group of passengers about to walk behind your airplane, this is NOT the time to hit the starter. Some common sense, and manners......PLEASE.
End of small rant.
Illya
It's like "ABC is forty nautical miles south......" WTF other kind of miles are there in this scenario?
Do FTU's really teach this crap?
And some of you, please learn to park your Navajos to leave room for others? There will be others.
When you see a group of passengers about to walk behind your airplane, this is NOT the time to hit the starter. Some common sense, and manners......PLEASE.
End of small rant.
Illya
Wish I didn't know now, what I didn't know then.
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In this edition of the elderly ranting for the sake of it...
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Several, it turns out:Illya Kuryakin wrote:WTF other kind of miles are there[?]
http://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile
Also there's miles as measured by DME which I guess should require an altitude report as well so I can do the necessary trigonometry to plot their position on my map. All of which is, of course, stupid as they've covered a whole (nautical) mile* in the time it took them to say it all. I also find decimal miles to be kind of silly for the same reason.
*1.15 statute miles, 1.25 Roman miles,
or [statute miles^2+(height AGL/5280)^2]^-2 DME.
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I wish my life was so carefree that I could worry about things like slightly improper radio terminology
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I like giving my speed in fathoms per fortnight so simplify things.
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I fill out the weight and balance in unicorns per ocean
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at the risk of thread drift... I measure the ground speed of a piston otter in a head wind in units of furlongs per fortnight.
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Yeah, some of the stuff on the frequency makes you wonder....
When I hear the "wheels down" comment, I think the broadcaster is not just reading the time off their GPS, but adding a bit to make it more realistic. When I hear ABC, 12 back, XYZ in 4, I wonder about the 180 knots to touch down..... when they say "wheels down",, ( I hope) they have adjusted this to a more realistic arrival estimate.
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When I hear the "wheels down" comment, I think the broadcaster is not just reading the time off their GPS, but adding a bit to make it more realistic. When I hear ABC, 12 back, XYZ in 4, I wonder about the 180 knots to touch down..... when they say "wheels down",, ( I hope) they have adjusted this to a more realistic arrival estimate.
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Illya, which province do you work in? tractor driver, true that. If I see 10 mins out in GPS and the ground speed is 200+ knots, add at least 2-3 mins to compensate for slowing down, extending flaps and gear. I've seen countless pilots arrive 3-4 minutes later than what they said, leaving me standing at runway waiting for them to land, me with a thumb up my ass knowing I could have taken off already.
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Actually, no.timel wrote:Haaaaa... How do we call that?
Airmanship?
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I'd fathom a guess, that the airmanship comment was directed towards the end of Illya's post, with regard to courteous aircraft parking, etc.AuxBatOn wrote:Actually, no.timel wrote:Haaaaa... How do we call that?
Airmanship?
As for the s hit that people say on 126.7, ACTPA is by far the most annoying. Then again, there are some flight schools out there (Lower Mainland), that seem to think that a practice area frequency is their personal ATC frequency, to direct everyone else to feck off, when they want to do something.
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It's all about measuring fuel burn in cubic inches of Velociraptor / hour.
But seriously, every-time I hear "conflicting please advise" I want to go missiles hot and tell them they're about to have a conflict!!!
But seriously, every-time I hear "conflicting please advise" I want to go missiles hot and tell them they're about to have a conflict!!!
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The "wheels down in ten" thing gives me a laugh-and-a-half too. Exactly what I think when I hear it too: hopefully the wheels ARE down in ten minutes, or you will be a sorry dude. If you're not just some dork trying to sound "cool" like a Vietnam-era Naval aviator reporting "feet wet" on his way back to the carrier, then why don't you save a syllable and just say "down in ten" or maybe splurge a little and say "landing in ten" ?
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I always assumed it meant wheels were down on the runway. I'm more worried about missed or inaccurate radio calls then not perfect terminology.
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Yep.7ECA wrote:I'd fathom a guess, that the airmanship comment was directed towards the end of Illya's post, with regard to courteous aircraft parking, etc.AuxBatOn wrote:Actually, no.timel wrote:Haaaaa... How do we call that?
Airmanship?
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I think there's some 'get off my lawn' types grasping at straws here. I too appreciate 'wheels down' since as mentioned above, it suggests they've adjusted the time showing on the black box. Hardly something to get to worked up about. It's not like an ACTPA call tying up the frequency...
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I'm with the wheels down crowd to many people say field in 10 and they are reading the time right off the box while trueing 300+knots in decent so you slow down or wait to take off since your not sure when they will actually be down. The wheels down I find helps clarify that hopefully the person took some time to give an accurate arrival estimate
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Re: Wheels Down in Ten
Instead of "wheels down in ten" I prefer to say "HFR joining left downwind ...."
In a 150 they are one and the same
LF
In a 150 they are one and the same
LF
Women and planes have alot in common
Both are expensive, loud, and noisy.
However, when handled properly both respond well and provide great pleasure
Both are expensive, loud, and noisy.
However, when handled properly both respond well and provide great pleasure
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. Well done, well done!LousyFisherman wrote:Instead of "wheels down in ten" I prefer to say "HFR joining left downwind ...."
In a 150 they are one and the same
LF
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