Germanwings A320 Plane Crashes in Southern France

[cncpc]

Reports live on the Guardian say that French investigators say they have good audio off the CVR.

There seems to be some evidence a pressure loss was not the cause.

The aircraft was flying intact until impact.\

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... ght-4u9525

[Heliian]

^the wording is off in the article he was saying that it does not appear to be a "classic decompression situation" or explosion, saying the plane was intact when it went in. Msn's clickbait headline says "voices and alarms" on cvr, it just fails to mention when. Investigators said they heard good audio like voices and alarms not when or even if they were at the same time.

[bizjets101]

One pilot locked out of cockpit - pilot inside cockpit did not answer or open door .... yikes !!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world ... w-bna&_r=0

[futboler14]

Oh boy, here we go...

[Axial Flow]

Always blame the pilot...seems like the odds are pretty good it's his fault. Too bad these Egypt Air 990, Mozambique Air, now German Wings guys...nobody just honourably kill themselves anymore...

[sstaurus]

How can this be stopped? More psych evals for everyone? Get rid of the doors? There will just be more and more pressure to replace the pilots with computers

[Illya Kuryakin]

How many people have died as a direct result of the 9/11 mandated "super doors"? Obviously, it's time to bring back the "cardboard" doors of yesterday? How much more proof, and deaths do we need???
There is no way to filter "depression" from the cockpit.
Illya

[jpilot77]

It also could have been an example of extremely unlucky pilot incapacitation. I've heard that in the US pilots are never alowed to be alone in the cockpit. When one goes out a flight attendant must stay in the cockpit till the pilot returns.

[goldeneagle]

I have a question specifically for Airbus drivers. In normal cruise configuration, should a pilot end up leaning on the sidestick, pushing it forward, what will the aircraft do ? Thinking about a possible incapacitation scenario, ie slumped forward due to a heart attack or anurism or some such event. What would the aircraft do with normal cruise set on auto, but a sidestick pushed forward?

And like Ilya, my first thought when I read about a locked out pilot apparently trying to bust down the door to get back in, this is essentially a direct result of the 9/11 mandated secure doors. But begs another question from folks at various operations that fly with secure doors. Are there any protocols regarding what must be done when one of the flight crew leaves the cockpit at your company ? Ie, is there a requirement for somebody else to be in there, or is it acceptable for just one person to be left in the cockpit with the door closed and locked. Another dumb question along the same line, can the door be locked on the way out? Or does it require an action from inside to lock ?

[whodareswins]

Our airline requires a flight attendant to replace the pilot when they leave the flight deck for the bathroom. This should be common place - surprising that it isn't.

[Illya Kuryakin]

All aircraft, industry wide should be grounded till these doors are removed. If these accidents were caused by a known mechanical flaw, this would happen. Guess what....these doors are a " known mechanical flaw" that has knowingly resulted in the deaths of many people. Park 'em.
Thoughts?
Illya

[Carl789]

Everyone has got so scared of the bogeyman in the shadows. These doors are not the only crazy thing to have been introduced for 'public safety' since Sept 11. The sad thing is that this incident is likely to prove that they were right to 'improve' security, and will introduce new measures now to make us all feel safe again.

[SenyorJim]

It's not a keyed door?

[Donald]

Anyone commenting on this line of thought, that currently works at an airline, is risking exposing confidential security information.

These sorts of things cannot be disclosed publicly.

[cncpc]

It also could have been an example of extremely unlucky pilot incapacitation. I've heard that in the US pilots are never alowed to be alone in the cockpit. When one goes out a flight attendant must stay in the cockpit till the pilot returns.

In the normal case, does the pilot inside have to let the pilot outside back in, and if so, does he or she have to unbuckle and leave the seat?

[cncpc]

Anyone commenting on this line of thought, that currently works at an airline, is risking exposing confidential security information.

These sorts of things cannot be disclosed publicly.

According to who or what?

What kind of things?

[Donald]

Operation of the door and access to the FD. Use some common sense.

[timel]

Operation of the door and access to the FD. Use some common sense.

Good luck keeping it confidential, medias are going to dig it.
All over social medias people are providing informations.


Seems that the FO started flying in mid 2013 for that airline and had a few hundred hours.
No one knows who was in the cockpit.

[GyvAir]

Yeah.. good thing you can't just google it or watch a demo on YouTube.

[boeingboy]

Always blame the pilot...seems like the odds are pretty good it's his fault. Too bad these Egypt Air 990, Mozambique Air, now German Wings guys...nobody just honourably kill themselves anymore...

Don't forget Silk Air 185, LAM 470, and it's a leading theory in MH 370!