Turbo Otter Crash, Mayo, Yukon

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Re: Turbo Otter Crash, Mayo, Yukon

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This is an email Brad sent me last summer:

"i bet ernie i could shoot a propane tank and explode it from 500 yards. we went out in cam's field and i taped it to a fence post and then rode the quad out 500 yards and fired away with my 30-06. it exploded. what a great day."
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Re: Turbo Otter Crash, Mayo, Yukon

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Oh Benji, my heart breaks that you will never get to experience the full awesomeness of your dad. The hair is amazing.
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Those pictures are amazing! So sad for that kid!
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Tanker299 wrote:I hope it was not engine problems, that would be some stroke of bad luck for -10 garretts.
I hear it was the tail not the engine. Apparently it folded mid flight.
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A friend of Brad's & mine sent me this. Can't say any better I recon.

Our Man of the North

There are strange things done in the midnight sun by the men who ply the air.
The old-times tell tips of the esker strips on which landing takes a certain flair.
The northern lights have seen sad sights, but the saddest they ever did see,
Was the night of the quake off Mayo Lake we lost our dear Bradley.


Some men are born with a certain scorn for the life the Joneses lead.
They leave to chase the demons they face and hope that they succeed.
For our Bradley's sake, the wish we make is he found the truth he sought.
His last thought, I'm sure, was simple and pure and not the least of which distraught.


In my time on earth, I've met with a dearth of genius to his degree.
His thoughts on the state and how dollars inflate were worthy of even Chomsky.
He balanced all this and ne'er did he miss with his trusty thirty-aught-six.
It is sad for us here, but he had no fear and is now crossing the river Styx.


A father an spouse, he wasn't a louse and he kept his family well.
His kindness and heart gave us all a kick-start. His story I will always tell.
To Brad I salute, but I know its now moot. I raise my whisky glass.
He will always be there when I'm up in the air. He's reached a higher class.
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"okay mike, I'm gonna look real serious-like now and you take the shot.."
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Something Brad said after pulling up to his Otter in St. Theresa Point and seeing every lifejacket in the otter floating down the lake after some kids got into it and pulled all of the cords: "Mother Fu*#er! I am going to go buy a bb gun from the Northern Store and hide out in the bushes all night and wait for those little fu#$ers to come back."
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I've known Brad since we worked together at U of Toronto and to suggest he had a profound impact on my life is a gross understatement. I have never met anyone like him and sadly never will. We shared interests in surfing, jazz, novels, rock climbing and weight lifting to name a few. He helped me buy my first car and took me flying in the early days when he was accumulating hours. My hilariously sarcastic friend was instantly transformed into this seriously skilled and focused pilot who painstakingly and patiently explained everything he was doing in terms us non-pilots could comprehend. He was genuine and loyal, asked for nothing but gave everything. Everyone has that really competent friend, that intelligent friend, or that really tough friend, or really wild friend, or friend with super strength, to me, Brad was all of these. I have had many of my own surreal adventures in life but somehow I was always excited to live vicariously through his. He used to stop at my house when returning to Toronto to see the ones he loved after spending time in the bush at Wabowden. My wife would cook him a good meal, and we would give him cold beer and a hot shower (and tease him about his crazy hair), in return, we just wanted to hear is crazy tales of being a bush pilot in the North worthy of any modern novelist. He had an uncanny memory and once brought my favourite chinese dish from Chinatown in Toronto and drove it 12 hours to my house up north in a cooler, it was the most thoughtful thing anyone had done and it tasted perfect. But most of all, I will miss his passion, passion for everything he pursued. And I know this passion will live on in his beautiful wife and son. Many years ago, Brad gave me a copy of "On The Road" by Jack Kerouac which I have re-read many times, so I will sign off with this quote, I think it speaks for itself,

"The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”

You were larger than life, I will miss you brother..
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Appreciation From Brad’s Parents
Sincere thanks to all who shared their thoughts about Brad and expressed condolences to his family and friends. While he would go out of his way to avoid such recognition, our youngest son certainly earned it. Your kind words intensified both our sense of pride in the loving, giving ,loyal, playful, hard-working wonderful man Brad had become and our profound sense of loss of such a multi-talented human being. So far, the feelings of loss are overshadowing the feelings of pride and gratitude for our 34 years with Bradley. When our thoughts go to Cathy, Benji, New Baby, Brad’s extended family and friends who have been robbed of a natural lifetime with him, the sense of loss can be overwhelming.
The poem “ Our Man of the North” is an amazing tribute to Brad that will be treasured forever. In particular, the second verse beginning with “Some men are born with a certain scorn for the life the Jones’s lead” is remarkable. We are extremely pleased to report that Brad had succeeded in chasing his demons and finding the truth as he reached a state of true happiness in all major aspects of his life. Unfortunately, the quotation from “On the Road” is also very fitting. Beyond these references, there are too many excellent tributes to mention individually in this blog. We view this collection as a virtual monument to our son. As the years pass, we will read it again and again, sometimes to Brad’s children.
When our time comes, we too will stop by the ’98 to raise a glass of fine tequila, Don Julio Anejo perhaps. As for all of you, we hope to wait a long, long time before you join us.
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From my family to Brads, our deepest and sincerest condolences.
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is there any preliminary on this crash?
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One year today Brad, you are missed and still in our thoughts.
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pilotidentity wrote:One year today Brad, you are missed and still in our thoughts.
Indeed. I never had the chance to meet Brad, but this accident still hit pretty close to home.
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Brat, not gonna lie brother.. I miss ya.
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Still think about you everyday bud
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We should learn from these tragedies.......BUT pilots and operators are still skirting around the duty reg's, flight time reg's, oxygen reg's, under recording Journey log entries.......

The TSB report on this in-flight breakup of the single otter powered by the Garrett turbine.

3.1 Findings as to causes and contributing factors

The aircraft departed controlled flight for reasons which could not be determined, and broke up due to high speed.
3.2 Findings as to risk

Inaccurate journey log time entries by pilots may have a negative bearing on pilot duty time monitoring and aircraft maintenance schedules.

Pilot exceedance of duty time, such as the 60 hours flight time allowed by regulation for the 7-day period, may increase the risk of fatigue.

Non-adherence to Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Advisory Circular (AC) 23-14 during both the supplemental type certificate (STC) approval process and the familiarization of the STC by Transport Canada may have reduced the safety margins envisaged by AC 23-14, in turn increasing risk for loss of aircraft structural integrity.

The operation of unpressurized aircraft at higher altitudes without supplementary oxygen may increase the risk of adverse effect on reaction time and judgment.

If owners of a DHC-3 Otter converted in accordance with STC SA02-15 are unaware of or have not complied with AD 2011-12-02, the aircraft may be at risk for loss of structural integrity due to operation at speeds in excess of those determined to be safe by the FAA.

The company practice of reconciling flight time and flight duty times on a monthly rather than a daily basis was inadequate to ensure compliance with CARs flight time and flight duty time limitations and rest period requirements.

If cockpit or data recordings are not available to an investigation, the identification and communication of safety deficiencies to advance transportation safety may be precluded.

If companies do not proactively monitor flight data, the identification and correction of safety deficiencies may be precluded.

Identifying human factors is critical to understanding why accidents happen. If companies cannot use voice and video recordings proactively for safety purposes, they are deprived of opportunities to reduce risk and improve safety before an accident occurs.

3.3 Other findings

While not considered a factor in the occurrence, the threaded barrel on the aileron balance cable turnbuckle was not lockwired.

While not considered a factor in the occurrence, the P2T2 loading spring assembly in the FCU contained incorrect parts from an unknown source.

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 1w0048.asp
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Don't exceed your duty times, don't log block flight time, don't fly high without 02 or your plane will fall apart. Thanks TSB.
The aircraft had been involved in a minor incident at the staging area on the Withers Lake ice strip on the second flight to Withers Lake on the morning of the accident. After landing, as the pilot was taxiing to position the aircraft for unloading, the aircraft struck a pile of lumber. The contact point was the left side of the fuselage, about 2 feet above ground immediately forward of the tail wheel. Following the incident, the pilot , with the help of an expeditor at the site, pushed on the tail of the aircraft to reposition the aircraft for taxi:the expeditor pushed on the right side of the aft fuselage, immediately below the right horizontal stabilizer, while the pilot pushed on the rudder. As the pilot was pushing on the rudder, a loud bang came from the aft fuselage.

The aircraft was unloaded and flown back to Mayo. Efforts during the investigation to determine the source of the abnormal bang were unsuccessful. The incident had not been reported to Black Sheep Aviation maintenance staff, and the empennage had not been inspected for associated damage by maintenance personnel before the accident. Detailed post-accident examination of the wreckage did not identify any damage that could be associated with the incident. The aircraft flew approximately 2.2 hours after the incident, prior to the accident.
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All the information indicates the aircraft broke up way above its designed speed.

For unknown reasons the aircraft started into a slight left hand descending turn accelerating from 144 mph to well over 200 mph. They believe it broke up between 224 and 256 mph in a 70 degree nose down attitude. I suspect the tail came off well above 200 mph.

We will never know the cause. Pure speculation on my part but fatigue combined with altitudes above 10000 feet could have contributed to the pilot becoming incapacitated.......fell asleep resulting is the aircraft departing from controlled flight.
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While I am not familiar with the circumstances of this accident, I have found with many TSB reports where they cannot conclude with specific evidence for an accident, they appear to try to get across their feeling of why it happened to the reader in such a way where, if you read between the lines, you as the reader will perhaps come to the conclusion that they want you to.

Reading just what was posted above from the report, it appears that the TSB has written the report in a way where what J31 posted would be the logical conclusion of the average reader. Yet if directly asked, the TSB could safely say that they never concluded this in their report.

If that makes sense.
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The TSB as much as says in their report they have no idea at all what happened here. As non-constructive as it may be to say this, I respectfully disagree with J31 for the simple reason that, in my gut, the "falling asleep" theory feels incorrect. I don't have a scientific reason for this other than I feel that unless he fell so deeply asleep that he slumped over the controls and forced the nose down and didn't wake up right away when the aircraft departed level flight, this doesn't feel right to me. You'd have to point a single otter almost straight down to achieve the kind of speeds they're talking about here. A young, healthy guy (even with a heart murmur) isn't going to pass out like that at only 11,000 feet. The otter is a slow, dopey aeroplane that isn't going to go that far out of whack if you fall asleep. Personally I think something mechanical happened, but we will never know.
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4 years today since that horrible crash that took Brad from us. His spirit lives on in Ben and Bradlee and Cathy, and in the hearts and minds of all who knew him. Cathy has devoted all of her time and effort to ensure that their children thrive and remember their wonderful father. Somehow, we feel that Brad is comforted to know that his family is now well re-established, surrounded by lots of loving family and friends. Brad, we miss you beyond what words can describe and feel the pain of your loss every day. We could really use one of your rib-crushing hugs.
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Thanks for the update on Cathy, Benji and Bradlee. It is comforting to know that they are doing well.

Shit I miss that guy a lot
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Had a couple beers with friends Brad, shed a few tears.
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With reference to the loud bang heard after they pushed on the tail, was there any report on how the tailwheel steering worked after that? Just curious.
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