Martin Mars for export ?

[Gilles Hudicourt]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadia ... -1.3065537

[Panama Jack]

Wayne Coulson is a businessman, and they are his airplanes.

If the Canadian government wants to keep them in Canada, they should cut him a cheque. I'd love to see at least one stay, preferably on a museum on Vancouver Island, however nobody has been willing to make any effort and one should not expect any private owner to be overly benevolent with a valuable asset "for the good of Canadiana."

All things do have limits and the Minister's actions smack of socialist authoritarianism.

[sstaurus]

I hope he goes for the package deal. Each country gets one, and he gets a couple hercs to make bombers out of. Win-win!

[BTyyj]

Looks like Shelley Glover's 80s haircit should be cultural property as well

[Flybabe]

Wayne Coulson is a businessman, and they are his airplanes.

If the Canadian government wants to keep them in Canada, they should cut him a cheque. I'd love to see at least one stay, preferably on a museum on Vancouver Island, however nobody has been willing to make any effort and one should not expect any private owner to be overly benevolent with a valuable asset "for the good of Canadiana."

All things do have limits and the Minister's actions smack of socialist authoritarianism.

EXACTLY.

Nice clause(s):

(2) Subject to subsection (3), the Governor in Council may include in the Control List, regardless of their places of origin, any objects or classes of objects hereinafter described in this subsection, the export of which the Governor in Council deems it necessary to control in order to preserve the national heritage in Canada:

(f) any other objects that have a fair market value in Canada of more than three thousand dollars.

This is unbelievably bogus.

[PilotDAR]

+1 Panama Jack!

And, I'd be leery taking old C 130's in trade. The folding wing C 130 is etched in my mind....

[Big Pistons Forever]

All of the privately owned air tankers in Canada are certified aircraft operating under CAR 702. The large airtrankers are maintained by an approved AMO with an approved large aircraft maintenance schedule incorporating numerous ICA's due to the extra stresses imposed by the mission.

I do not think it is right that a private company should get free parts paid for by public money such that they will now have a competitive advantage over the other companies operating this kind of business.

If those Herc parts have commercial value they should IMO be disposed of by Crown Assets and the money be returned to the public purse.

If a Canadian group wants to preserve a MARS they should fund raise an appropriate amount of money and buy the aircraft. The reality is the aircrafts true value is only its scrap value.....

[Panama Jack]

. . . The reality is the aircrafts true value is only its scrap value.....

I am not sure I entirely follow your point. Anything is worth what the market deems it to be worth- in other words, what one is willing to pay for it and what one is willing to sell it for.

Rarety usually usually raises this value. This explains why diamonds fetch better prices than coals despite both of them being bits of carbon. P51 Mustangs are highly valued airplanes in aviation circles despite their old age (70 year old bits of metal) while other, more modern aircraft out there which can be found at a lower price tag yet have more capable performance.

I agree with your second to last sentence about a Canadian group needing to get together to raise the capital to preserve and display the aircraft. Unfortunately, I find the US are usually more serious about preserving aviation history- they know the value of something when they see it.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

How much is a Mars worth to his owner ? Anyone have an idea ?

[Big Pistons Forever]

How much is a Mars worth to his owner ? Anyone have an idea ?

It has no commercial value to the Coulson group because nobody wants it as a water bomber. As for its historical appeal it has no connection to the Canadian Military and a limited one to the US Military as it did not see much service before it was retired.

There is history as a water bomber but that is confined to the BC West Coast. It is definitely an impressive airplane but its "value" is hard to establish as anyone taking it over would need relatively deep pockets to preserve and display such a large aircraft.

[Panama Jack]

Interesting development- the Hawaii Mars has a new flying contract:

http://www.cheknews.ca/one-martin-mars- ... erty-96211

[lownslow]

Interesting development- the Hawaii Mars has a new flying contract:

http://www.cheknews.ca/one-martin-mars- ... erty-96211

Probably getting ready for this thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVIC_TA-600