I bet this guy hates birds...

[Sulako]

http://www.fazed.org/video/view/?id=47#boidie


Fighter(?) takes off, sucks bird into engine, which quits. Pilot ejects. Bird doesn't do so well, neither does plane.

[desksgo]

Neat video, Sulako. Those are some cool customers at the controls, the breathing rates go up, but they just calmly did their thing and ejected once the aircraft was beyond help.

[neechi]

WOW


Was it my imagination or did they point the ship straight down before ejecting?

[jumperdumper]

Great video....

[bush pilot]

It might not be my place to say but it seems as though he might have completed or close to a 180 and his speed did not go under 127. Could he not have put the gear down and saved the 20 odd million dollar plane, or does the gear need power from the engine( be it hydrolic or otherwise). I know they have chutes for a reason and if I were in parell I also would like to get the hell out of their. However does having a chute give them to much of an out? could some of these planes be saved? It reminds me of WWI where the pilots did not have any chutes and had to do their best in getting the plane down in one peice. The reason for this was twofold 1- the pilot would stay alive 2- the plane could be used again. And do not jump on me its only a question! I am not saying that they do not deserve chutes!

[desksgo]

It looked like the bottom would have fallen out as soon as he would've flared. He did exactly what I would've done! (if I had the balls, drive, inspiration, passion, eyesight, determination, and mental stability to fly a jet like that )

Actually I probably would have ejected as soon as I heard that limey computer voice start squawking about the gear.

[Canus Chinookus]

for those of us without ejection seats, that couldn't have happened at a better place... plenty of speed, and the runway very close.

[teacher]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Nerves of steel.

[CAPGEN]

I understand that's the Hawk that took the bird in Moose Jaw a while back.

[grimey]

I understand that's the Hawk that took the bird in Moose Jaw a while back.

Wouldn't suprise me. The chatter between the two crew made it sound like a training flight to me.

[CAPGEN]

haha, and the voice warnings in the british accent...

"Beep...Beep..Gear Not Down"

"Righto! Thanks Nigel!"


And I love the tone of the student's voice as he watches the bird go in...it's not a tone of "uhoh, what do I do now?"...it's more of a tone of dissapointment, like "I borrowed the boss' new truck and I just scratched it up against the yellow cement pole in the Tim Horton's drive-thru"

[. ._]

Man, that sure sounded like one cool instructor.

"No biggy, get ready to punch out. (YAWN) Why not try lighting the engine? Oh well, 'hey tower, we're gonna eject to the north, take 'er easy.'"

-istp

[CD]

I understand that's the Hawk that took the bird in Moose Jaw a while back.

Investigative summary of the incident:
http://www.airforce.dnd.ca/dfs/pdf/REPO ... 155202.pdf

The mission was a navigation trip and part of a conversion syllabus designed to familiarize the Royal Air Force (RAF) student with the NFTC Hawk variant. With the area portion completed, the crew was conducting some proficiency flying at 15 Wing. The IP had just taken control and as the aircraft approached the departure end of Runway 29R, a bird was observed just left of the nose. Both crewmembers heard a thump, felt vibrations and noted a change in engine pitch. This was followed immediately by audio and caption engine warnings (T6NL&ECA) and high engine temperature indication (660 C).

The IP traded airspeed for altitude, confirmed that engine temperatures remained high, reduced throttle to idle and told the student to prepare to abandon the aircraft. The aircraft reached a maximum altitude of approximately 3700 MSL (1700 AGL). When the aircraft descended through 3000 MSL the IP transmitted his intention to eject to Moose Jaw tower. After confirming the student was ready, the IP ordered and initiated ejection.

Both occupants cleared the aircraft and descended under parachutes but for less than 30 seconds prior to landing. One crewmember was seriously injured in the sequence and the other received minor injuries. The aircraft was completely destroyed when it crashed about seven seconds later in a farmers field.

The investigation is on going and focusing on a wide range of issues including the aspects of low and slow speed (below 300 KIAS) engine failure in the CT155 and ejection criteria. Also, the investigation will examine engine performance after bird ingestion and aircrew life support equipment.

Remains of the incident:

[YYC the place to be]

What a waste of money. All there is around moose jaw is fields, I would rather take my chances with a forced approach into a field than with a tiny round chute. Why would you try a restart if you knew you got hit by a bird? just say screw it and land the airplane. A new engine is cheaper that a new airplane.

[Sulako]

I dunno about that. A factor might be the safe approach speed of the aircraft in question. In a 172, maybe. But if it stalls at 150 kts, I'd rather punch out than try to ride it in at 160kts. Farmer's fields are soft, but they aren't that soft.

http://www.baesystems.com/programmes/ai ... /hawk2.htm

That tells me the jet can weigh up to 20,000lbs, it's wing surface area is 179 square feet, it can do mach 1.2 and it has a skinny little wing that spans 32 feet. I'm guessing the best glide speed and stall speed is pretty high. I'd take a chute.

Sacrifice an engine to save the plane, sacrifice the plane to save your life. The engine was already sacrificed to the bird gods...

[prang one]

Having flown the Hawk Sulako has it on the money.

Landing a plane like that in a field is NOT option A ie 90% chance of not getting awaywith it.

Ejection seats are there for a reason.The "mantra" in mil flying is you are worth more than the plane.If things look bad throw the aircraft away and use the Martin baker let down system, BEFORE the aircraft is so messed up profile wise you CANT use that system.Even an ejection seat has limits.

IMHO opinon they did a good job of trading speed for some alt starting a turn back and relight.IP relized prity quick turn back was not going to work due to alt even with good speed control.Told Stud to get ready to go (he was trying relight) leveled of the aircraft and eject. Job well done

Hope they both are able to return to flying duties soon

[Intentional Left Bank]

The IP received significant injuries and last I heard won't be flying a fast jet anytime soon. Con college grad, class of the early nineties.

Personally, I think he did a great job of very quickly trading speed for altitude, and then holding his target airspeed within 2 or 3 knots. I know a number of guys that can't fly that well if their lives depended on it!

[prang one]

I thought people might want to know that in an other wise bad summer for aviation some good news.

The student (RAF) in the Hawk was able to return to flight training and is now on the Tornado F3.

Unfortunatly I understand the IP is still recovering from injuries caused by the seat pack not releasing.

[TheCheez]

Yea the IP was talked about a little here because of the ejection yesterday and aparently hasn't flown anything since then.

He did the right thing in that situation though, and did it well and its really a shame he got messed up because of it.

[monkeyspankmasterflex]

Cool video.

IP:"Eject eject eject"
Tower:"Viking 2, confirm breaking out to the north?"

Hope the IP can make a full recovery and get back to fast jets. BZ

[Gurundu the Rat]

Another thing to consider on single engine jets is the fact that without the engine you probably don't have hydraulics, which control just about everything. Once the pressure is gone the plane is useless. And theres a whole lot more fuel than in a C-152. I don't think the field is a good option. JMO.

[monkeyspankmasterflex]

I think they usually have a Ram Air Turbine or some alternate source of power for the hydraulics in the event of an engine failure, might even be 'manhandleable'.