Chief pilot with limited medical???

[Wmayeur]

How can someone be chief pilot if their medical has limitations such as 'can't fly alone'?

[ahramin]

Would seem faily straighforward. They do their chief pilot duties, and when they go flying, they don't fly alone.

[switchflicker]

There is no reason a Chief Pilot would need to fly alone. Even in a single pilot operation, he/she would need to be qualified to fly one of the types to be operated, but that could be accomplished with a safety pilot sitting right seat.

Why not call your friendly TC inspector and get the real stuff? And report back to us!!

[fish4life]

So a medical issue is the chief pilots fault? You better hope your not in that position one day or you might be re-thinking your view

[Liftdump]

This ranks very high on the " Stupid post ever award"

[bobcaygeon]

A chief pilot is not only administrative.

My point of view when I fly with the chief pilot, he is suppose to inspire higher standards and show excellent skills/understanding, he also expects a certain level from his pilots and can even challenge them in flight, someone with a physical disability might not be morally in a position to do that.

FYI, I don't even have a medical anymore and can't even drive due to a neurological issue yet I have been/currently am, Ops Manager at 2 different 704 companies and was hired by AC prior to this.
I am responsible for the safe operation of the airline as per TC. I've added 3 different a/c types to an AOC in an 8 month period while doubling the size of an airline. I have researched, purchased, developed, and implemented the training program for a G1000 cockpit upgrade. I am the CP's supervisor and have monitored 8 flight crew members online in the last 10 days.

Did I mention that I did this while completing my MBA (not online) in my "spare time" using a bike and the bus as transportation?

Apparently I am incapable of " flying the line" but yet I can pass a Single pilot PPC on a high performance turboprop(in a sim) despite not having flown "the line" in 7 years.

4 words. Go "F@#$ yourself"

[Rockie]

My point of view when I fly with the chief pilot, he is suppose to inspire higher standards and show excellent skills/understanding, he also expects a certain level from his pilots and can even challenge them in flight, someone with a physical disability might not be morally in a position to do that.

In the first place, since when in the history of forever does a physical disability determine a person's moral authority on anything? Secondly, since when does a medical restriction connote a physical disability? Thirdly, have you raised your brainless concerns to the chief pilot in question?

If not...please do and report back to us.

[timel]

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[Meatservo]

As far as I know, my chief pilot is as fit as a fiddle. Nevertheless, he is not allowed to fly alone either. Why? Because all of our aeroplanes have a minimum flight crew requirement of 2!

Even if we had any single-pilot aeroplanes, we would be lucky if the chief wasn't allowed to fly alone, because everyone loves flying with him!

[oldtimer]

Who says the CP has a disability? I had a minor heart attack years ago. I had a stent put in to prevent the pump from cavitating but within 9 months, I got my ATPL back and went to work for another 9 years. The only restriction was a stress test on a treadmill once every other year. But then the problem reappeared and I had to have another stent put in. Now, I had to fly commercially with a co-pilot, which was company policy anyway. Then, 5 years ago at age 70, I retired. But I can if I wish have the 2 crew restriction lifted for private flying, I have not bothered. As a former CP, all that is required is to be PPC'd on at least one of the companies types. A CP with a 2 crew restriction can still operate as a flight crew, still do administrative work, and if pilots do somethig really stupid, can fire their ass out the door if such action is warrented. A person has to learn to just eliminate the stress that builds up when there is a desperate urge to kick the living shit out of some idiot who so desperatly needs and deserves it.
During recovery, I learned how to deal with stress and how exercise can restore health so until the second event, I had more energy than ever.

[timel]

Old timer interresting thanks.

Bobcaygeon, I did not mean to offend you, sorry about that.

[AuxBatOn]

Nice Ninja edit... Can't stand by and accept your (stupid) comments timel?

[flyinthebug]

FYI, I don't even have a medical anymore and can't even drive due to a neurological issue yet I have been/currently am, Ops Manager at 2 different 704 companies and was hired by AC prior to this.
I am responsible for the safe operation of the airline as per TC. I've added 3 different a/c types to an AOC in an 8 month period while doubling the size of an airline. I have researched, purchased, developed, and implemented the training program for a G1000 cockpit upgrade. I am the CP's supervisor and have monitored 8 flight crew members online in the last 10 days.

Did I mention that I did this while completing my MBA (not online) in my "spare time" using a bike and the bus as transportation?

Apparently I am incapable of " flying the line" but yet I can pass a Single pilot PPC on a high performance turboprop(in a sim) despite not having flown "the line" in 7 years.

4 words. Go "F@#$ yourself"

Well said Bobcaygeon! I too am in a position of responsibility with a large western carrier. I am responsible for 7 aircraft at my base, and all the day to day operations of my base. I am currently working with a CAME in my area, and hoping to get a Restricted CAT 1 back, so at least I can go back to flying floats Day/VFR. Just because I cant fly the dials anymore (double vision from accident), I don't think that makes me any less of a leader than I was before my accident? I feel as capable as I ever did, if not moreso now. One day if I do get my CAT1 back, I would aspire to become a CP again. I qualify as an Ops Manager, but would really enjoy being a CP again and doing some float work again. I hope not many people hold the same mindset as the OP (and timel) in regards to a CP having "limitations"...as I truly plan to be one again in the not too distant future.

Fly safe all.

[Johnny#5]

Who cares if a CP can't fly alone?? What a stupid thread....and I normally like stupid threads.

[trey kule]

How can someone be chief pilot if their medical has limitations such as 'can't fly alone'?

Your question , and your later remarks, seems to be from someone who has an axe to grind.

If this is the biggest issue with a CP, I would say you have a pretty darn good one. Maybe a competitor's CP.? This is the kind of petty nonsense that I recall seeing in the north decades ago.

Ask the CP face to face your question and mention the moral part. Let us know how it goes.

[flyingvinnie]

A chief pilot is not only administrative.

My point of view when I fly with the chief pilot, he is suppose to inspire higher standards and show excellent skills/understanding, he also expects a certain level from his pilots and can even challenge them in flight, someone with a physical disability might not be morally in a position to do that.

FYI, I don't even have a medical anymore and can't even drive due to a neurological issue yet I have been/currently am, Ops Manager at 2 different 704 companies and was hired by AC prior to this.
I am responsible for the safe operation of the airline as per TC. I've added 3 different a/c types to an AOC in an 8 month period while doubling the size of an airline. I have researched, purchased, developed, and implemented the training program for a G1000 cockpit upgrade. I am the CP's supervisor and have monitored 8 flight crew members online in the last 10 days.

Did I mention that I did this while completing my MBA (not online) in my "spare time" using a bike and the bus as transportation?

Apparently I am incapable of " flying the line" but yet I can pass a Single pilot PPC on a high performance turboprop(in a sim) despite not having flown "the line" in 7 years.

4 words. Go "F@#$ yourself"

That is actually three words!

[cncpc]

A chief pilot is not only administrative.

My point of view when I fly with the chief pilot, he is suppose to inspire higher standards and show excellent skills/understanding, he also expects a certain level from his pilots and can even challenge them in flight, someone with a physical disability might not be morally in a position to do that.

FYI, I don't even have a medical anymore and can't even drive due to a neurological issue yet I have been/currently am, Ops Manager at 2 different 704 companies and was hired by AC prior to this.
I am responsible for the safe operation of the airline as per TC. I've added 3 different a/c types to an AOC in an 8 month period while doubling the size of an airline. I have researched, purchased, developed, and implemented the training program for a G1000 cockpit upgrade. I am the CP's supervisor and have monitored 8 flight crew members online in the last 10 days.

Did I mention that I did this while completing my MBA (not online) in my "spare time" using a bike and the bus as transportation?

Apparently I am incapable of " flying the line" but yet I can pass a Single pilot PPC on a high performance turboprop(in a sim) despite not having flown "the line" in 7 years.

4 words. Go "F@#$ yourself"

Well said.

And well done.

[Wmayeur]

Now can I have some Professional Pilots respond, please.

The reference to the Chief Pilot is indeed that these are mandatory and regular flights.

I am looking for personal experiences from Professional Pilots…. notably information on what, if any, extra information a Professional Pilot receives for the Chief Pilot's medical specific condition…. e.g.. are there additional pamphlets or literature from Transport Canada, or would the Chief Pilot himself describe typical situations or look-out symptoms? Does the Chief Pilot give a quick briefing on the ground as a small reminder. Remember that the Professional Pilot, in my case, has no history with this kind of medical situation, and am searching for positive and constructive comments in this area.

Moderator: please delete the earlier replies from profanity-proficient pilots, as they are undignified and quite intolerable. Thank you.

[timel]

I have to admit I was very ignorant on the topic and my post came out really disrespectful, I should have given more thoughts before speaking, the last thing I want is offend people behind a nickname.

So I want to apologies to all of those that I offended.

[oldtimer]

I had a mycardio infarct and my medical was suspended, 9 months later, after much medically supervised recovery not recomended by (but encouraged by an CAME), I was back to work without restriction and in fact worked as Chief Pilot. I then had a blockage similar to the original but it was discovered during the only "restriction", a stress test. 6 month later, I was back in the saddle but the restriction was a letter I recieved that said I had to fly with a second pilot, had to keep a seatbelt and shoulder harness on at all times and had to inform (allow to read letter) the second pilot and had to do a stress test every year. But that was for a class 1 medical. There was no mention of any restriction as to being a a chief pilot except by this time I was no long a chief pilot (Different company) However, I was still an ACP until I retired after 50+ years.

[Panama Jack]

A chief pilot is not only administrative.

My point of view when I fly with the chief pilot, he is suppose to inspire higher standards and show excellent skills/understanding, he also expects a certain level from his pilots and can even challenge them in flight, someone with a physical disability might not be morally in a position to do that.

FYI, I don't even have a medical anymore and can't even drive due to a neurological issue yet I have been/currently am, Ops Manager at 2 different 704 companies and was hired by AC prior to this.
I am responsible for the safe operation of the airline as per TC. I've added 3 different a/c types to an AOC in an 8 month period while doubling the size of an airline. I have researched, purchased, developed, and implemented the training program for a G1000 cockpit upgrade. I am the CP's supervisor and have monitored 8 flight crew members online in the last 10 days.

Did I mention that I did this while completing my MBA (not online) in my "spare time" using a bike and the bus as transportation?

Apparently I am incapable of " flying the line" but yet I can pass a Single pilot PPC on a high performance turboprop(in a sim) despite not having flown "the line" in 7 years.

4 words. Go "F@#$ yourself"

Well said.

And well done.

+1

[switchflicker]

This Professional Pilot says (again) "Why not call your friendly TC inspector and get the real stuff? And report back to us!!"

[flyinthebug]

I have to admit I was very ignorant on the topic and my post came out really disrespectful, I should have given more thoughts before speaking, the last thing I want is offend people behind a nickname.

So I want to apologies to all of those that I offended.

I didn't find your comments offensive, but I do appreciate you having the "jam" to apologize. Thank you. Apology accepted by me, and I am sure anyone else you may have offended on here. I was quite ignorant too (uneducated is a better word) about this topic, until it happened to me...and then I saw the light and changed my tune. There are some awesome pilots flying around with permanent and non permanent disabilities. I know the Ops Mgr at Harbour Air is missing about 7-8 fingers. Not totally missing, but small stubs as fingers...and he flys the DHC3T and DHC6 daily...or at least he did when I was there. Some disabilities keep you out of the cockpit, and the guidelines are reasonably clearly defined on that subject... while others are ones that CAMEs and TC are willing to work with. I hope to soon have a restricted Cat 1 back...and I have no doubt of my ability to be as good or better than I was pre accident. If I did doubt myself, I wouldn't be working so hard to jump through all their hoops.

Thanks again for the apology Timel. Shows some class at very least.

Fly safe all,
FTB