Hawkair recession

[floydfrank]

Word is that Hawkair is closing it's yyd base, probably for good this time . Big pilot and related employee shuffle along with numerous lay-offs. I'm curious as to just how big the down turn is in Canadian Aviation this year? We are in recession without a doubt, HA problems are also related to the arrival of encore, but of course there's always other issues. Seems to me (regarding the overall world economic mess) that there's an elephant sitting in the living room, but most refuse to acknowledge it.

[Girl17]

Hey, you know it's pretty unfair to spread these kinds of rumours about this company. You can be sure that any signs you might see of them not doing very well are bound to be only part of a master strategy on the part of their CEO, Mr. Jay Dilley. You can be sure that under his leadership this company will remain strong and show positive growth, even if it's not growth that YOU can see. You're just a pilot, what would you know about it. Men like Mr. Jay Dilley understand that it's not how the company does while the CEO is there that is important: it's the legacy he leaves behind him that is the true indicator of a CEO's character. These are the teachings of Jay Dilley.

If I know one thing about this great leader of men, it's that the company will not only prosper after he is forced to resign, it will probably do EVEN BETTER. According to his own philosophy, this will be the true testament to his brilliance as a leader!

[Panama Jack]

OK. I get it. Girl17 is all about sarcasm. Reminds me a bit about this:

[Independence]

Single pilot from the right seat. Nice work.

[floydfrank]

I am interested if anyone out there has some anecdotal tales about other 705 (mostly am thinking domestic) operators in Canada that are feeling the crunch of this recession/depression?

[tbaylx]

I am interested if anyone out there has some anecdotal tales about other 705 (mostly am thinking domestic) operators in Canada that are feeling the crunch of this recession/depression?

There's plenty. Pick your 705 Alberta charter operator and they're hurting. Just wander by the south side of YYC and look at all the parked iron with engine covers etc.

It's a lot more fun when the oil $$ are flowing.

[arctic_slim]

Hey, you know it's pretty unfair to spread these kinds of rumours about this company. You can be sure that any signs you might see of them not doing very well are bound to be only part of a master strategy on the part of their CEO, Mr. Jay Dilley. You can be sure that under his leadership this company will remain strong and show positive growth, even if it's not growth that YOU can see. You're just a pilot, what would you know about it. Men like Mr. Jay Dilley understand that it's not how the company does while the CEO is there that is important: it's the legacy he leaves behind him that is the true indicator of a CEO's character. These are the teachings of Jay Dilley.

If I know one thing about this great leader of men, it's that the company will not only prosper after he is forced to resign, it will probably do EVEN BETTER. According to his own philosophy, this will be the true testament to his brilliance as a leader!

LMAO, I actually laughed out loud. If it's one thing Dilley is good at it's deception. He may have people believing his master plan but he is full of himself. I really hope that you are just being sarcastic though.

[Big Bird Anonymous]

Wow girl17, I would like to know if you are actually a real pilot. I guess all of the other 705 operators trying to make ends meet these days wouldn't be having troubles if they had this savior you mention running their show.

Perhaps HA is not having financial problems but instead the lay offs and route cancellations are part of a master plan aimed at desalinizing the competition or perhaps it really is an indication of loss of operational control.

[tbaylx]

Wow girl17, I would like to know if you are actually a real pilot. I guess all of the other 705 operators trying to make ends meet these days wouldn't be having troubles if they had this savior you mention running their show.

Perhaps HA is not having financial problems but instead the lay offs and route cancellations are part of a master plan aimed at desalinizing the competition or perhaps it really is an indication of loss of operational control.

I think you may have missed some sarcasm in girl17's post......

[Big Bird Anonymous]

Wow girl17, I would like to know if you are actually a real pilot. I guess all of the other 705 operators trying to make ends meet these days wouldn't be having troubles if they had this savior you mention running their show.

Perhaps HA is not having financial problems but instead the lay offs and route cancellations are part of a master plan aimed at desalinizing the competition or perhaps it really is an indication of loss of operational control.

I think you may have missed some sarcasm in girl17's post......

...I see that now...

[coldandwet]

Its not rocket science.... you can only fly a route with 2 0r 3 people on it for so long... Lose an A/C and you will have to downsize the staff requirements. Its aviation everyone, Ive been at this along time and know one thing for sure if you are worried about losing your job it means you still have one.. I guess these pilots will get to get out from under the blanket of this supposed horrible company and actually have to start working for their money instead of getting paid to bitch about it all day long. everyone breathe...lol

[Donald]

Girl17, that was awesome! I'm surprised that Dilley's synergies haven't saved everyone yet!!

Good luck to the HA folks wherever you end up.

[brooks]

I remember when HawkAir first started and they pissed off PASCO by flying in their turf when they helped them start up (YVR-YYJ). Lucky there were only less than 5 people a flight and they gave up. A decade later and I thought they had found their footing in the industry but with CMA, Jazz, and now Encore operating connecting flights and nicer airplanes I would say that this airline doesn't have much left in it.

[Big Bird Anonymous]

You can take the company out of the bush...

[goingnowherefast]

You can take the company out of the bush...

That's painfully accurate, and it doesn't apply in just BC.

[SRV]

...and now in need of a DoM...is this a sign?

[Girl17]

...and now in need of a DoM...is this a sign?

I see what you are insinuating here, but you need to understand that Mr. Jay Dilley's visionary attitude towards maintenance employees is that any one of them is completely interchangeable with any other one of them, and therefore can be replaced at any time. This brilliant and respectful approach to management ensures that at any time, there is a fresh, new DoM, with fresh new ideas and a "go-get-'er-done" attitude. Mr. Jay Dilley takes the professional development of his employees very seriously, and the results of this can be clearly observed in the fact that every team member he has driven away from a company inevitably moves on to a much more rewarding position elsewhere! It's in this way that Mr. Jay Dilley is "changing the leadership landscape". He's the builder of tomorrow's leaders!

Here's an inspirational quote from Mr. Jay Dilley via "Twitter"

"u can give a 1000 speeches but nothing has a bigger impact than personnel decisions u make Who u hire, fire & assign 2 projects"

[SRV]

...and now in need of a DoM...is this a sign?

I see what you are insinuating here, but you need to understand that Mr. Jay Dilley's visionary attitude towards maintenance employees is that any one of them is completely interchangeable with any other one of them, and therefore can be replaced at any time. This brilliant and respectful approach to management ensures that at any time, there is a fresh, new DoM, with fresh new ideas and a "go-get-'er-done" attitude. Mr. Jay Dilley takes the professional development of his employees very seriously, and the results of this can be clearly observed in the fact that every team member he has driven away from a company inevitably moves on to a much more rewarding position elsewhere! It's in this way that Mr. Jay Dilley is "changing the leadership landscape". He's the builder of tomorrow's leaders!

Here's an inspirational quote from Mr. Jay Dilley via "Twitter"

"u can give a 1000 speeches but nothing has a bigger impact than personnel decisions u make Who u hire, fire & assign 2 projects"

I guess it's time for an Encore

[plhought]

Hahaha. Brilliant

[BeaverDreamer]

...and now in need of a DoM...is this a sign?

I see what you are insinuating here, but you need to understand that Mr. Jay Dilley's visionary attitude towards maintenance employees is that any one of them is completely interchangeable with any other one of them, and therefore can be replaced at any time. This brilliant and respectful approach to management ensures that at any time, there is a fresh, new DoM, with fresh new ideas and a "go-get-'er-done" attitude. Mr. Jay Dilley takes the professional development of his employees very seriously, and the results of this can be clearly observed in the fact that every team member he has driven away from a company inevitably moves on to a much more rewarding position elsewhere! It's in this way that Mr. Jay Dilley is "changing the leadership landscape". He's the builder of tomorrow's leaders!

Here's an inspirational quote from Mr. Jay Dilley via "Twitter"

"u can give a 1000 speeches but nothing has a bigger impact than personnel decisions u make Who u hire, fire & assign 2 projects"

[airprofessor]

UPDATE: Now this. Notice Doug is the one quoting nowadays....


Terrace to Vancouver flights using Hawkair aircraft to end

By Terrace Standard
Published: September 22, 2016 06:00 AM
Updated: September 22, 2016 06:276 AM

IT'S THE end of an era in regional air transportation with the cancellation as of Oct. 1 of a non-stop Terrace to Vancouver and return passenger service using a Hawkair aircraft.

The move was made necessary because of declining passenger counts, says Doug McCrea of Smithers-based Central Mountain Airlines which absorbed Hawkair's planes and crew within its own schedule earlier this year.

“It was a difficult decision and not something which we would take lightly,” said McCrea.

He said the general economy in the northwest and the passenger capacity of the other two airlines using the Northwest Regional Airport here, Air Canada and WestJet, affected business.

“There was hope for the possibility of LNG but that hasn't materialized as of yet,” said McCrea.

People wishing to use a Central Mountain/Hawkair service to Vancouver from Terrace can still do so but will first have to route through Prince George.

Not affected are Central Mountain's flights from Terrace to and from Prince George, its Kelowna-Prince George-Terrace route, its Prince George to Vancouver flights or its flights in and out of northeastern B.C.

Hawkair entered the northwestern B.C. aviation scene first as a freight carrier in 1994 before converting to a passenger service in 2000 from an operations base at the Northwest Regional Airport here.

Its first passenger scheduled flights were from Terrace to Vancouver but it then expanded to include Prince Rupert and Smithers flights to Vancouver.

It also began offering service to northeastern B.C. and, for a brief time, to Victoria.

The company ran into financial difficulties and received protection from its creditors before being bought by an Alberta company which then sold it to the parent company of Central Mountain Airlines in 2011.

Hawkair suspended its Smithers to Vancouver once before reviving it but cancelled it again in mid-2015 and in late 2015 announced it was suspending its Prince Rupert service.

The merging of its planes with Central Mountain's service, the two are owned by the same parent company, this year also meant the closure here of its reservation system.

But McCrea isn't anticipating any further direct job loss as a result of the Terrace to Vancouver cancellation.

“The aircraft still have to be maintained and we still need flight crew,” he said.

Central Mountain will look at expanding its scheduled service elsewhere and pursuing charter opportunities, he said.

Find this article at:
http://www.terracestandard.com/news/394420851.html

[torquey401]

...and now in need of a DoM...is this a sign?

I see what you are insinuating here, but you need to understand that Mr. Jay Dilley's visionary attitude towards maintenance employees is that any one of them is completely interchangeable with any other one of them, and therefore can be replaced at any time. This brilliant and respectful approach to management ensures that at any time, there is a fresh, new DoM, with fresh new ideas and a "go-get-'er-done" attitude. Mr. Jay Dilley takes the professional development of his employees very seriously, and the results of this can be clearly observed in the fact that every team member he has driven away from a company inevitably moves on to a much more rewarding position elsewhere! It's in this way that Mr. Jay Dilley is "changing the leadership landscape". He's the builder of tomorrow's leaders!

Here's an inspirational quote from Mr. Jay Dilley via "Twitter"

"u can give a 1000 speeches but nothing has a bigger impact than personnel decisions u make Who u hire, fire & assign 2 projects"

WOW! I mean really ... WOW!

If Mr Jay Dilley has that much contempt for maintenance staff, he is more than welcome to his "leadership landscape".

[ka8120]

Don't believe the media and the dribble drabble about loss of routes and aircraft and such. The Hawk is doing better than ever!

Just look at our blog postings (https://hawkair.ca/2016/09/mentoring-starter-kit/)

We are now specializing in Mentorship instead of flying aircraft!

Get your starter kit while they last!

[airprofessor]

So does anyone have any idea what is going on at their HQ in YXT?

I don't have any personal investment in the issue, but, was wondering because I would hate to see another BC based business go under...even though it is quite normal.

[airprofessor]

Word on the street is Hawkair has finished operations and locked the doors as of yesterday.

Cheers to the employees that stuck it out.