I guess I'm getting old, and things change (though I don't know why, the old way worked...). I never heard about "guarding" the brake pedals, except for pilots being told not to do it, by keeping heels on the floor, unless using the brakes. About the same as not driving a car with your foot on the brake pedal - unless you're pressing it so as to stop.
I don't keep my hand on the flap, or landing gear selector, or trim wheels, unless I'm actually going to move them, I can't think why I'd do it differently for the brakes.
But... all but two Canadian planes are not mine, so I suppose they can be flown as the owner allows.... it's a new world out there (even with the same old planes!)
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Meatservo
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I don't need to worry about it, I gots big feet. I don't need to lift them off the floor.
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upintheair_
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Day one of flight training all I can remember is "heels on the floor."
I actually need to correct myself from my previous post. I made a note to see what I actually do when say on short final today. Since it's muscle memory I couldn't really think off the top of my head. Long story short, put me in the heels on the floor bandwagon.
I actually need to correct myself from my previous post. I made a note to see what I actually do when say on short final today. Since it's muscle memory I couldn't really think off the top of my head. Long story short, put me in the heels on the floor bandwagon.
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First flight in a J3 Cub today......FEET ON THE PEDALS!!! (and use them)
"Carelessness and overconfidence are more dangerous than deliberately accepted risk." -Wilbur Wright
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As it is for most things concerning techniques in aviation: IT DEPENDS.
Think ahead or fall behind!
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RadicalRadial
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Its a shame more guys don't get the opportunity to fly DC-3s and C46s. This topic wouldn't have even arose if everyone had experience in airplanes like that. Heels on the floor. You inadvertently tap the brakes on one side in the C46 past 40 knots and you're going for a ride. The DC3 is a bit more forgiving but its still a heavy tail dragger and it'll say "I'm going that way now! See ya suckers!"
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Doesn't the cub have heel brakes? In which case you can't keep your feet on the pedals and toes over the brakes...JasonE wrote:First flight in a J3 Cub today......FEET ON THE PEDALS!!! (and use them)
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JasonEJasonE wrote:First flight in a J3 Cub today......FEET ON THE PEDALS!!! (and use them)
Whomever you flew with is teaching you wrong.
The J3 is definitely a heels on the floor aircraft due to the heel brakes
I guess you could put you full feet on the pedals once you are air born but why would you ?
The pedals are not that tall and you can easily get full movement with you heels of the floor.
I fly a vintage biplane with large pedals , still it has heel brakes and pretty much dictates heels on the floor also.
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JungleMonkey
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Interesting question. I never really noticed usually I'm too busy looking out the window. I'll check where my feet are next time. I fly Amphibs mostly but have flown Otters and Piper Cubs too. A Champ I once flew had heel brakes but the Beaver on wheels had toe brakes if I remember correctly.
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JohnnyHotRocks
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What he said!RadicalRadial wrote:Its a shame more guys don't get the opportunity to fly DC-3s and C46s. This topic wouldn't have even arose if everyone had experience in airplanes like that. Heels on the floor. You inadvertently tap the brakes on one side in the C46 past 40 knots and you're going for a ride. The DC3 is a bit more forgiving but its still a heavy tail dragger and it'll say "I'm going that way now! See ya suckers!"
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Anti - Skid inop that day.
Heels on the floor would of made a difference that day...now he knows.
Heels on the floor would of made a difference that day...now he knows.
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Hmm. Now I'm curious what kind of aircraft it is. Loss of a complete anti-skid system is a total no-go on any airplane I've ever flown, and loss of a single channel (one wheel) similarly skewers an aircraft with only four brakes since it renders the one brake inoperative as well leaving you with a 25% loss of braking capacity. On aircraft with eight main wheels though you can lose a single channel (one brake deactivated) and still dispatch but it's with hefty weight penalties.J31 wrote:Yes. MEL
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B737 Classic. The Boeing can operate under anti skid MEL'ed with restrictions.
With Anti skid inop the tires pop like balloons if you touch down with the brakes on or get aggressive with the braking!
With Anti skid inop the tires pop like balloons if you touch down with the brakes on or get aggressive with the braking!
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Really? What was the first airplane you ever flew as a student?Rockie wrote:Loss of a complete anti-skid system is a total no-go on any airplane I've ever flown...
