Air Canada Pool

[Oxi]

Regional wise what is shaping up to be the way to AC outside of OTS hiring?

From Jazz I hear that a Future PML will be in place once the current one is exhausted, Air Georgian and EVAS seems like they will eventually get a piece of the pie and Sky Regional after their July 14th meeting with AC have started sourcing a list.

[Maxpwr]

Regional wise what is shaping up to be the way to AC outside of OTS hiring?

From Jazz I hear that a Future PML will be in place once the current one is exhausted, Air Georgian and EVAS seems like they will eventually get a piece of the pie and Sky Regional after their July 14th meeting with AC have started sourcing a list.

Sky Regional guys are already interviewing. If AC is where you want to be then soon the only way will be via Jazz, Sky and eventually Georgian. No idea about Evas. Basically pick your team, Red or Blue and join one of those regionals.

[watermeth]

Make sure not to be stuck there. 'Could be a long lasting stepping stone...

[JoeyBarton]

Regional wise what is shaping up to be the way to AC outside of OTS hiring?

From Jazz I hear that a Future PML will be in place once the current one is exhausted, Air Georgian and EVAS seems like they will eventually get a piece of the pie and Sky Regional after their July 14th meeting with AC have started sourcing a list.

Sky Regional guys are already interviewing. If AC is where you want to be then soon the only way will be via Jazz, Sky and eventually Georgian. No idea about Evas. Basically pick your team, Red or Blue and join one of those regionals.

When is the first sky regional pilot joining mainline?

[airworthyb]

If AC is where you want to be then soon the only way will be via Jazz, Sky and eventually Georgian.

PML is in place at Georgian, two pilots have already gone to AC.

[mbav8r]

When is the first sky regional pilot joining mainline?

I assume you mean as part of the PML program, if so, that won't happen until the the Jazz PML is exhausted and at that time the next gen PML will kick in.
Any SR pilot joining AC until then would have to go over as an off the street new hire at a ratio of 20% to 80% Jazz pilots, anything else would be a violation of the four party agreement in place.

[Oxi]

When is the first sky regional pilot joining mainline?

I assume you mean as part of the PML program, if so, that won't happen until the the Jazz PML is exhausted and at that time the next gen PML will kick in.
Any SR pilot joining AC until then would have to go over as an off the street new hire at a ratio of 20% to 80% Jazz pilots, anything else would be a violation of the four party agreement in place.

It would appear after the July 14th meeting with Mr.Howlett that both GGN & Sky have their own PMLs now.

[Art Garfunkel]

Yes Jazz pilots, you still have access to 80% of the AC ground schools. Sky and GGN are occupying the other 20%. I belieive 2 GGN and 2 Sky pilots are on the next AC ground school.

From what I hear a lot of Jazz pilots are differing so making it very difficult to plan.

[JoeyBarton]

Yes Jazz pilots, you still have access to 80% of the AC ground schools. Sky and GGN are occupying the other 20%. I belieive 2 GGN and 2 Sky pilots are on the next AC ground school.

From what I hear a lot of Jazz pilots are differing so making it very difficult to plan.

So for the October one? November?

[countryhick]

Yes, quite a few Jazz pilots have deferred....Jazz has also started to defer (hold, freeze..) pilots for 1-3 months.

[av8ts]

Yes, quite a few Jazz pilots have deferred....Jazz has also started to defer (hold, freeze..) pilots for 1-3 months.

How is this deferral going to play out. You defer, go to AC in 2 years and slide in ahead of the others hired since? I'm sure there will be no infighting there. Could be worse, imagine getting hired off the street at WJ and told you will never go Capt because all the Encore pilots are ahead of you.

[smnoi]

In the September course, the 4 guys from the outside 20% were from the pool. From course to course, they sometimes take Sky and Georgian people in the 20% but it always varies.

[Slappy the Squirrel]

Email was sent to the pool a few days ago.

There's an October course starting on the 26th then another PIT course starting on Nov 23rd. Nothing more is finalized but she said they are expecting another 5-6 courses in the first half of 2016 of 20 pilots each.

[altiplano]

There was an email a couple weeks ago.

I think it said 190 by next summer...

Current SPB shows 257 required looking forward to forecast flying a year from now.

[Cough Syrup]

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[WhatThe?]

Anyone who delays their course runs the risk of losing out if there is a downturn.

If you are on the property you stay; you are not on the property....the gates will close.

Yep you have a number but you will miss years of pay etc when you finally make it into a flight deck.

How long was the last downturn? 3years?

[Dockjock]

Deferring a course date is very risky given the number and pace of changes relating to hiring policy that have been occuring recently. Overlaid on the cyclical nature of the business, it's naive to think that your reserved place at the table is more than a best effort commitment. Take it, make it real ASAP when you get an offer of employment.

[Ironman2909]

Any news on how many are left on the pool. I know the November course as been filled. Apparently next course could be at beginning of January 2016.

Thx

[Anticyclone]

Hey guys,

Do you have any idea of when will be the 1st delivery of the 737 Max??

Cheers.

[Ironman2909]

I think the 737 MAX is suppose to arrive somewhere in 2017.