Swedish CRJ-200 Cargo Crash Norway

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Swedish CRJ-200 Cargo Crash Norway

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CRJ-200 cargo aircraft declared emergency and then disappeared from RADAR.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4920a18a&opt=4096
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Good god... Nothing left of it at all.

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The pictures I saw sadly won't have a black box recoverable, or at least I'd be amazed if they could find anything.
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Holy crap there is nothing left of it. I hope the emergency call gives them some strong clues to what happened otherwise I don't think there is much left to inspect.

Let the speculation games begin.
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arctic_slim wrote:
Let the speculation games begin.
There isn't even enough left to speculate about.
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I was wondering how they found it up there in the 66+ degree north winter dark of 3:00am.

Video:

http://www.nrk.no/nordland/norske-f-16- ... 1.12739279

Stating that they have found portions of data recorder(s):

http://www.nrk.no/nordland/kan-ha-funne ... 1.12741407
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arctic_slim wrote:Holy crap there is nothing left of it. I hope the emergency call gives them some strong clues to what happened otherwise I don't think there is much left to inspect.

Let the speculation games begin.
No let's not. Speculation on the death in an instant of 2 of our colleagues is not a game. The cause of this tragedy needs to be found. Public speculation has nothing to add.
Deepest sympathy to the pilots and to their loved ones.
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I'm certainly curious what was said during the MAYDAY call???

Only news is Flight Data Recorder has been recovered, it is badly damaged - but complete,
parts of the Cockpit Voice Recorder have been recovered but missing memory module.
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I am absolutely amazed they could find anything, let's hope they can get some data off it to hopefully get answers.
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Deep snow at a crash site like this can be a bit deceptive. There are probably more parts scattered around than you can see.
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Good god... Nothing left of it at all.
I thought the same thing about a similar accident on a Scat Airlines CRJ report on Avherald.

http://avherald.com/h?article=45ce98f4/0000&opt=0
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rxl wrote:
arctic_slim wrote:Holy crap there is nothing left of it. I hope the emergency call gives them some strong clues to what happened otherwise I don't think there is much left to inspect.

Let the speculation games begin.
No let's not. Speculation on the death in an instant of 2 of our colleagues is not a game. The cause of this tragedy needs to be found. Public speculation has nothing to add.
Deepest sympathy to the pilots and to their loved ones.
Of course it's sad to lose colleagues, that's a given. But as we have seen in the past, lots of speculation happens after every accident. I look forward to the discussions on what might have happened.

Interesting to see the video of the crash site using IR, it stands out significantly from the surrounding snow.
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Update:

On Jan 26th 2016 the SHK reported that the investigation managed to read out both cockpit voice and flight data recorder, the CVR does contain the talks of the crew during the accident flight. The investigation is currently analysing and validating the recordings. A preliminary report is estimated to be released in a week or two.
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I think that's the first accident ever at that airline. Hope they find what caused such an insane descent rate.
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The Swedish accident board has published an interim status report in English here:

http://www.havkom.se/assets/reports/SRL-2016_01e.pdf
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Low oil engine pressure on both engines ?

If you read the transcript (at the end) it gets really freaky. I have the impression they both knew exactly what was going on, and yet couldn't do anything about it.
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digits_ wrote:Low oil engine pressure on both engines ?
I don't normally like partaking or speculating in such threads but -1G might do that in a standard turbine engine.
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looking at the FDR print out his "WHAT!" expression seems to have coincided with the pitch changing. Then the AP disconnects.
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old_man wrote:
digits_ wrote:Low oil engine pressure on both engines ?
I don't normally like partaking or speculating in such threads but -1G might do that in a standard turbine engine.
Very likely because of the negative g.
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fanspeed wrote:
old_man wrote:
digits_ wrote:Low oil engine pressure on both engines ?
I don't normally like partaking or speculating in such threads but -1G might do that in a standard turbine engine.
Very likely because of the negative g.
Would that also affect the engine operation or just the indication ?
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