Someone Please Help!!

[Pete]

Hey,

I think Im pretty spent that I cant understand this...but here goes:

For the CPL 35 TT Dual...is the Night Dual, IFR Dual (Post Private...without the night rating IFR...I have about 3.5 hours) all included in this? Ive been trying to track my hours...so far I have about 30 hours of Re-Current checks, C.O.T's, some post private upper airwork...Now with the Night Rating and IFR stuff included would this complete my required 35 Dual?

For the 30 TT solo, since my Private, Ive logged about 25 hours x/c time...and about another 10 hours of upper airwork...would this complete my solo, or does that dual have to be more than just x/c's?

I guess I just dont understand what can go into that 35 TT Dual and 30TT Solo. If someone could dumb it down I would really appreciate it. I guess to me, I cant see how I can get credit for all those C.O.T's and Re-current checks...but if I can I will.

Sorry if this sounds confusing, but I havent started a PTR since my private and its just been recentley Ive had the $$ to attempt getting a CPL...I dont want to mess it up I guess...and if there are any instructors who work in the Toronto area who want to help me complete this...and would be willing to sit down and build a PTR with me, pm me. I want the CPL complete and fast!!!

Thanks guys and once again sorry!!

[BTD]

Of that 30 hrs solo at least 25 hrs has to be toward improving overall pilot skill. That includes the 300 nm radius XC. The 35 hrs just has to be under the supervision of an instructor (post private) and that can include the

5 hours night, including a minimum of 2 hours of cross-country flight time;

(B) 5 hours cross-country, which may include the cross-country experience from (A) above; and

(C) 20 hours of instrument flight time in addition to the experience stated in (A) and (B) above. A maximum 10 hours of the 20 hours may be conducted on an approved aeroplane simulator or flight training device.
(amended 1998/09/01; previous version)


Take a look at the often overlooked Standards section of the CARS. 421.30. Licensing requirments

[TC Guy]

Pete:

BTD gave some excellent information!

Now I will chime in with my 2 cents:

Regarding your questions... I think the best idea would be for you to contact a reputable flight school (one that you would consider doing your training with) and make an appointment to sit down and talk to someone who could design a program specifically for you. Failing that, you could call your local Transport Canada office and talk to a Licensing Officer or Inspector.

I can give you some general guidance here, but without looking at your logbooks, it is impossible to give you exact numbers.

Dual Flight Time:
-if you have the night rating, you have the required night dual experience
-you will require 20 hours of instrument flight time (of which 10 can be in the simulator) on top of the 5 hours of instrument time you received on your PPL
-any other dual you received from a licensed flight instructor can be used towards your CPL requirements

Solo Flight Time:
-if you have the night rating, you have the required night solo experience
-the 30 hours you have will count towards the 35 hour requirement for solo
-you will require the 300nm cross-country

You must have 150 hours TT prior to taking your CPL flight test.

Please note:
The above information is for licensing purposes only, you must still be recommended for a flight test by a licensed Flight Instructor. If you do not meet the required level of skill, this will not happen.

I would suggest you also review the flight test guide so that you can see what would be expected of you for the flight test.

Link to CPL flight test guide: http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/gener ... 2/menu.htm

Link to CPL requirements:http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Regse ... htm#421_30

I hope this helps!

-Guy

[Pete]

BTD and TC Guy,

thank you very much for your help! TC Guy...that is my plan as of now, Im going to start looking for a school in and around the GTA and for an instructor who will be willing to help me sort this out. Until then, TC Guy you mentioned aside from the Night Dual, and IFR Dual required, any other dual time with a certified flight instructor counts towards the dual reqt's...just to clarify...my 30 some odd hours of Check-outs, re current checks etc. can count towards this? Same with the solo...I can take that 25 hours of x/c time and apply it to the 30 hours solo requirement? Sorry to bring that up again...thats the biggest thing for me right now...what other than the Night, IFR etc. can go into those 2 requirements. I wouldnt put in a "pleasure" flight as Im not learning anything...but when it says 25 hours of Skill Improvement I question exactly what that means. Anyways once again thanks for the help guys...and if you dont mind clearing that last part up Id really appreciate it!!!

Sincerely,

Pete

[scm]

"(c) Not more than 3 hours of familiarization flight time aquired for any type or class of aircraft may be credited towards the flight time requirements for a higher type of license."

I'm not too sure what that means, but it's something to look into.

[TC Guy]

just to clarify...my 30 some odd hours of Check-outs, re current checks etc. can count towards this?

Yes, provided it is with a Flight Instructor. This is where the "...at least 25 hrs has to be toward improving overall pilot skill" comes in.

I can take that 25 hours of x/c time and apply it to the 30 hours solo requirement?

Yes, towards the issue of the licence.

what other than the Night, IFR etc. can go into those 2 requirements

Be careful with the IFR time... remember, this time can only count if it was done by a licenced Flight Instructor.

I wouldnt put in a "pleasure" flight as Im not learning anything...but when it says 25 hours of Skill Improvement I question exactly what that means.

Pretty much any solo following the issue of the PPL can count towards this.

To say anything more on this subject is very difficult, because I would need to see your logbook.

Remember, the CPL is not just an hourly requirement, it also requires a certain level of skill. It will take you time (dual and solo) to meet the standard to be recommended for the flight test.

"(c) Not more than 3 hours of familiarization flight time aquired for any type or class of aircraft may be credited towards the flight time requirements for a higher type of license."

I'm not too sure what that means, but it's something to look into.

This means that if you are checking out on another aircraft type with a non-Flight Instructor rated pilot, you cannot count any more than 3 hours of this time towards the CPL or ATPL.

Hope this helps!

-Guy

[Pete]

TC Guy,

Thanks, that last post is what I was looking for. If you could check your PM's that would be great aswell. Once again thanks guys.

Pete

[TC Guy]

TC Guy,

Thanks, that last post is what I was looking for. If you could check your PM's that would be great aswell. Once again thanks guys.

Pete

You are very welcome. Good luck with your training!

-Guy

[BTD]

TC guy,

Very good info there. Seems like hearing you talk is like putting a pair of glasses with the perfect prescription on someone who is having trouble seeing.

If I ever need clarification on something glad to know that you are here to help out.

BTD

[Pete]

I second that