Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics...
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
Looked like a 1g roll. What certification does that require? Ever see the movie Bat-21?
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
.... or less, there seemed to be a few items floating around.Looked like a 1g roll
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Judging by the weightless salted nuts tin at the :20 mark, there was at least a bit of negative G experienced.
Leaving the registration fully visible at several points in the video was a nice touch.
Posted back in 2009. Doubt anyone's going to be chased down at this point, regardless.
Leaving the registration fully visible at several points in the video was a nice touch.
Posted back in 2009. Doubt anyone's going to be chased down at this point, regardless.
Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
I would hope you would be able to answer that yourself.Changes in Latitudes wrote:Looked like a 1g roll. What certification does that require?
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
That was my first thought too, well after he needs to pledge his windshieldPilotDAR wrote:.... or less, there seemed to be a few items floating around.Looked like a 1g roll
Frankly though, presuming the pax knew before hand and were cool with it, long as it was the PICs own plane, and since it wasn't over a populated area, whatever
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Unless they scrawled that reg on there for fun to avert authorities, that plane was being flown for Discovery at the time....
How much ya wanna bet that guy watched Bat21 the night before?
How much ya wanna bet that guy watched Bat21 the night before?
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
Did that registration say FSIW?
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Fire patrol training
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Was that you mr Joe? Those poor suck and blows.
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Name: Discovery Air Fire Services Inc.
Address: Box 400
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
Ailron roll can be accomplished in just about any aircraft as long as the G load is not surpassed, but that aircraft is not considered to be in the Aerobatic cat. of aircraft , just the Normal cat. Following the manouvre if the aircraft sustained any damage the pilot would be on the hook, The POH information handbook will state which manoeuvre's are authorized and the G limits plus or negative, for the airplane.
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
Hey Redlaser, what's your take on rolling g?
Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
In the Utility Category, an airplane is authorized to (from the airworthiness manual):
(1) Spins (if approved for the particular type of aeroplane); and
(2) Lazy eights, chandelles, and steep turns, or similar manoeuvres, in which the angle of bank is more than 60 degrees but not more than 90 degrees.
I don't see rolls in there.
(1) Spins (if approved for the particular type of aeroplane); and
(2) Lazy eights, chandelles, and steep turns, or similar manoeuvres, in which the angle of bank is more than 60 degrees but not more than 90 degrees.
I don't see rolls in there.
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
So doesn't that invalidate the C of A?
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
Any airplane can be rolled. 707, Concorde, Aero Commander.
Just because it's possible, doesn't mean it's smart, a good idea, or legal. Certainly pretty dumb to film it, and especially to post it on YouTube.
Just because it's possible, doesn't mean it's smart, a good idea, or legal. Certainly pretty dumb to film it, and especially to post it on YouTube.
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co-joe wrote:So doesn't that invalidate the C of A?
For the time the aircraft is operated in contravention to the POH and its category.
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
The Skymaster is only certified in the Normal category, so you can't even do spins.
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Yeppers. Or banks over 60 degrees.
That being said, if you can keep the loading within spec between 3.8 and -1.52 as per the AFM, isn't the bank angle really just an arbitrary limiting factor? Plane doesn't know which end is up.
That being said, if you can keep the loading within spec between 3.8 and -1.52 as per the AFM, isn't the bank angle really just an arbitrary limiting factor? Plane doesn't know which end is up.
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Re: Didn't know the Skymaster was certified for aerobatics..
It is the definition of normal and utility categories. How they got there is irrelevant at this point. 60 degrees AOB is 2G in level flight. 90 is infinite Gs to maintain level (ie: unless you use other means to generate an aerodynamic force opposite to the weight of the aircraft).
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