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I am getting close to finishing my ppl. I am trying to figure out how to build hours for cpl. Is it better to rent or buy a cheap 150 or something. I'm paying 125 an hour for a 172 skyhawk at my club. Which I know is a pretty good deal.
I would love to own but I know it can add up with maintenance and all that. But I want to do long trips and see North America, I mean I might as well see the world while building hours. I know renting can have scheduling issues and such. Would it be more cost effective to rent or own for time building?
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I wanted more freedom to fly, on my own terms, 29 years ago, so I bought a 150. 3300 hours later, I still have it. I have never regretted buying it, and have no interest in selling. With your own modest plane, you will have immense opportunity, which is difficult to achieve renting. You can fly somewhere for the whole day, park it all day, and no one is asking about minimum use payments.

There are lots of threads to be researched about the cost of ownership of basic planes. As long as you plan to fly at least 50 hours a year, and want to take the plane away, owning is preferable for most people.

As you express your desire to fly more, the phrase "Building experience" might be better received than "building hours". It has been said that you can have a thousand hours or an hour a thousand times. I opine that 500 very diverse flying hours will stand you in better stead with potential employers than 1000 hours around the circuit, and flying to the next airport for burgers.
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Oh yes maybe I worded it wrong. I don't wanna just fly to get the hours. I wanna do it because I want the experience and I want to explore, I was saying it because you need 200 hours to get cpl so I why I worded it like that. But I agree quality over quantity of hours.
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Yes Danish, it's a mindset. My most fun recollections have been ferrying very modest aircraft halfway across Canada, in difficult conditions, and the pride of arriving safely, after mastering challenges along the way. It does not need flashy paint, or high tech avionics, it just needs to be safe and reliable.

You'll find that when you're flying your own aircraft, you'll allow yourself more freedom as you gain experience.
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PilotDAR wrote:Yes Danish, it's a mindset. My most fun recollections have been ferrying very modest aircraft halfway across Canada, in difficult conditions, and the pride of arriving safely, after mastering challenges along the way. It does not need flashy paint, or high tech avionics, it just needs to be safe and reliable.

You'll find that when you're flying your own aircraft, you'll allow yourself more freedom as you gain experience.
+ 1. Can't add a thing. Get out of the circuit, region, province, country.

I still haven't left North America myself, yet, but will one day.
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I agree. We don't get our licenses to fly circuits.
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How much can cost a Cessna 150?
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http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?mak ... _order=asc

Prices range from $11,900 to $59,500 (USD).

Edit: Wow, that $59K one actually has the kiddie seat installed. First time I've ever seen one actually installed.
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Prices range from C$15k to about C$25k at the moment (looking on kijiji). A 15k one will have an engine near TBO, but it really shouldn't be a concern as long as compressions are high and it hasn't been sitting idle. It might just be difficult to sell it.
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PilotDAR wrote:I wanted more freedom to fly, on my own terms, 29 years ago, so I bought a 150. 3300 hours later, I still have it. I have never regretted buying it, and have no interest in selling. With your own modest plane, you will have immense opportunity, which is difficult to achieve renting. You can fly somewhere for the whole day, park it all day, and no one is asking about minimum use payments.

There are lots of threads to be researched about the cost of ownership of basic planes. As long as you plan to fly at least 50 hours a year, and want to take the plane away, owning is preferable for most people.

As you express your desire to fly more, the phrase "Building experience" might be better received than "building hours". It has been said that you can have a thousand hours or an hour a thousand times. I opine that 500 very diverse flying hours will stand you in better stead with potential employers than 1000 hours around the circuit, and flying to the next airport for burgers.

You see all the time building programs down in the US and you wonder how busy they are with up and coming pilots using their services. I've always wanted to buy a cheap twin and simply flying around the country including down in the US with up and coming pilots that want to build that ' building experience' flight time without charging these crazy prices that you see down in the US.

I would do it for the joy of seeing these young pilots gain the experience flying into larger airports and build time and let them pay for the fuel and chip in a little to cover maintenance and insurance if that is 'legal' here in Canada to ask for. I've flown across the continent a few times building time using someone's else twin and it was a great experience flying and deciding this is where I want to fly to and land and spend the night and continue the next day.

Is it legal to ask for a little fee for maintenance and insurance while flying ?

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I bought, ended up keeping the plane well after until I upgraded.


If you know enough to shop smart buy a plane, personally I'd get a champ, c120/140, etc way before I got a 150/2
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About that cheap twin... There's a reason they're cheap.
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