I guess I should have quit flying when I reached 2500 hrs to sit around and wait for AC to call, in order to keep my attitude intact!
I am not sure I understand............ That is not what I am saying at all. Why is it so difficult to understand that companies change their policies? Hell we don't even know for sure because only a handful of people have been hired!! Why is everyone pouncing on this subject which is based primarily on hearsay and a few rumours. Like I said, from what I have seen and not from what I have heard from my sisters cousins boyfriends mother, is that there are very few "low timers" being hired anyway.
You guys go nuts and blow your brains out on this subject.
Why is it so difficult to understand that companies change their policies? Hell we don't even know for sure because only a handful of people have been hired!!
I think I've figured it out, they're hiring in alphabetical order, so unless your last name falls in the A-C range you no longer have the right to bitch.
Jaques Strappe wrote:
Don't count yourself out. AC does not require a degree, only University acceptance. There have only been a couple of classes since they announced a hiring, who says that if you aren't on the first class, you are doomed? I see alot of upset people on here venting about something that may be a mute point if they had some patience.
University acceptance, well geeze I've had that....just didn't follow up on it. I'm not upset or venting at all, it's just that I accept the fact that their hiring policy has changed. If I were to get the call 3-4 years from now then great, I just won't be upset if I don't. I realize that an education is the best thing that you can have these days, and I regret not following through with it. All I can do is to continue working where I am now to the best of my ability and watch.
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I wonder how many pilots out there have a university education, or went to an aviation college, or whatever falls into AC's post-secondary education classification. Just curious how long it might be before they've worked their way through all those that qualify in that regard... soon? awhile?
It was in reference to "I'd rather fly with a 2500 hr guy any" comment.
I disagree that there is a direct connection between age and attitude. I am as professional now, or probably more so now than I have ever been after 12 years of flying commercialy. I will however agree that younger less experienced guys are much more naive and is easier to keep happy.
I am also happy to say that two very experienced fellas I know have had interviews, one is allready in course and the other is waiting for results. These are guys with 7000hrs +. I am allready committed somewhere else for a few years and hope they dont call cause I would have to turn it down. It was however bothering me that extremely experienced, proffessional friends of mine where not hearing anything after having applied and updated their resumes for 10 or 15 years now.
I sometimes call a spade a shovel. However I am happy to hear that people are seeing that 7000 hr guys are also getting called. I hope things work in your favour as far as timing goes.
I respect your opinions and enjoy your posts. As far as my adventures go we will have to wait and see what happen, but I am happy with my decision be it a drastic one!
I wonder if Air Canada would give me an exemption?
I have several exemptions here in Europe, one for age. After 65 here you can't carry passengers in a large aircraft, so for the purpose of insurance I'm flying as a first officer when passengers are carried.....Hey that makes perfect sense, I'm to old to carry passengers but because the other pilots do not have the experience level in the airplane to get insurance coverage some deep thinker decided to put the Cat in as first officer for safety.....yeh makes perfect sense hell with CRM and decision making by the board of directors in the cockpit I get to vote on how we keep from killing a plane load of passengers when the other pilots run out of ideas.
......I just love these rules that were so clearly thought out. When they gave me an exemption to fly as a training pilot it left the door open for the Airdisplay authorization...then came the carrying of passengers problem, when I was told no passengers I asked them how come I was safe enough to teach, what about my students, will they be unsafe because of my age...so eventually they came up with a solution...
...Maybe I should apply to Air Canada??
Cat
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Been some intersting points made on this topic in the last few weeks.
All you high time guys out there who are hoping for a call just remember that AC is not the be all and end all in aviation. I mean a year ago it was WJ. Now its AC. I am sure all the young folks trying to get in have stars in their eyes but the more experienced types know that is is just a job. Which brings up another point.
Pay. I mean it is shocking to start and I am sure many simply can't afford the cut. 30 something a year is terrible especially with a mortgage and a little one or two. AC must be the only major airline that pays the same starting wage as its regional carrier. Done by design I would think. And then there is the cancelled Boeing order. The union called Miltons bluff and he layed down the Royal Flush. AC is retiring many old boys over the next 5 years and it would seem that the carrier is betting to get more concessions once many of them are gone. Its called an own goal.I think the NHLPA could vouch for this!!!! Wooooops.
I did not write this to get peoples back up just to point out the obvious. For those feeling hard done by I say this. There is a shite load of aviation outside the great white north and in many places (Asia and Europe) it is in a totally different league. For those young folks good luck with AC and I am sure you will have a good career. Won't be the same as the old boys but still good. For those with oodles of experience take it where someone will reward you for it. After all you have worked for it.
JS before you jump down my throat yes I do have a 6 figure salary and all the benefits. I got it the day I joined.
Good luck everyone, just keep this all in perspective.
RB-211 wrote:
AC is retiring many old boys over the next 5 years and it would seem that the carrier is betting to get more concessions once many of them are gone. Its called an own goal.I think the NHLPA could vouch for this!!!! Wooooops.
Good call. I'd put money on it that it will come to pass.
Hmm... you're ex-jetsgo, n'est-ce pas? I know another guy going to fly an RJ in Hong Kong... perhaps you are one in the same? Although I'd imagine your new employer is picking up more than one person from jetsgo.
However I am happy to hear that people are seeing that 7000 hr guys are also getting called. I hope things work in your favour as far as timing goes.
