Westland Lysander Down

[JasonE]

http://globalnews.ca/news/2771509/quick ... 29011430=1

C-GCWL I believe. Engine trouble, forced landing.

[Broken Slinky]

Glad to hear no injuries. Hopefully they can rebuild it.

[flysportstar]

Glad everyone is OK.
Things could have been much worse! Thanks to the Ontario Government, all those useless wind turbines you see in the not too distant background would have certainly been a factor in the pilots decision of where to land, and what his approach path would have been.

There is currently a fight in Collingwood Ontario where they want to place 8, 500 foot tall wind turbines within a few miles of the Municipal airport. One or 2 of the turbines will actually be within the circuit.
Its only a matter of time before these waste of taxpayers money wind turbines wipe some airplane out of the sky in a situation like this.

Again....glad it turned out as well as it did.

Peter

[PropToFeather]

Things could have been much worse! Thanks to the Ontario Government, all those useless wind turbines you see in the not too distant background would have certainly been a factor in the pilots decision of where to land, and what his approach path would have been.

There is currently a fight in Collingwood Ontario where they want to place 8, 500 foot tall wind turbines within a few miles of the Municipal airport. One or 2 of the turbines will actually be within the circuit. Its only a matter of time before these waste of taxpayers money wind turbines wipe some airplane out of the sky in a situation like this.

There's 3 points here that are worth noting:

1) The sighting for the turbines in Ontario has been politically influenced, rather than driven by good expert analysis. That's stupid, and so is putting turbines in the circuit at an airport (or, really, within any distance that would endanger any current (or prospective) users of the airport). No question on that front.
2) Having flown a bit in that area, there are definitely hazards associated with turbines... but, it also is worth noting that all those turbines were (last I checked) clearly marked on both the VNC and the VTA for the area, and are placed far enough apart that they do not (at present) preclude field selection - the accident aircraft having been able to land in an area of 10+ mills (from what I remember of the area). Also, as a pilot, you have the final say of flying over turbines (potentially reducing your available landing sites - extremely so, if you choose to low level over a dense mill farm), or flying a marginally longer route over roads/open fields to increase your chances of a successful forced landing, should you need to do one.
3) Wastes of taxpayer money? "Useless"? Hardly. Now, did Ontario overpay for those turbines? Almost definitely. But, remember, those turbines are generating energy for the grid, meaning Ontario doesn't have to pay for as much imported hydro (Quebec and US), and is less reliant on non-renewables for generation. Both of those are economic (and, in the case of closing down the Nanticoke plant, health) benefits. Plus, maintenance work on said turbines is also a source of some jobs for the area where farming was previously one of the few ways to make a living.

Back on topic, Broken Slinky nailed it, a relatively good outcome, hopefully it can be fixed up and flying again, looks like it would be a sharp plane to see in the air.

[anofly]

Sorry , but wind turbines are paid somewhere between twice and 3 times the price of other forms of electricity, and certainly more than we would pay for electricity from Quebec. The problem with Quebec as a source of electricity is 2fold, transmission lines and seasonal quantities. Wind is a very expensive type of non carbon emmitiing electricity generation, and it almost certainly needs expensive and polluting gas to back it up.
Your "global adjustment" portion of your bill is the "blending in " of renewables (wind solar) to conventional sources of generation like hydraulic and nuclear. Both of the last 2 are much cheaper than wind and solar.

Cheers

[photofly]

Lysander to wind turbines in just three posts... awesome.

If you're going to pick any vintage type to land in a field, the Lysander is a good choice. Shame about the damage.

[cgzro]

Indeed, very glad nobody got hurt. Very true about the type. It was designed for landing in rough fields at night behind enemy lines, they are very tough birds and their stall speed with slats etc is about 60mph.

[cgzro]

[quote]generating energy for the grid, [/quote]

6% of the total.

And 100% backed up by something else.

[SheriffPatGarrett]

But windmills are the best finance source for the liberal party...used to be esquimo housing at half million each(costing $10,000)...Iceboxes for PET comfort!

[fleet16b]

[3) Wastes of taxpayer money? "Useless"? Hardly. Now, did Ontario overpay for those turbines? Almost definitely. But, remember, those turbines are generating energy for the grid, meaning Ontario doesn't have to pay for as much imported hydro (Quebec and US), and is less reliant on non-renewables for generation. Both of those are economic (and, in the case of closing down the Nanticoke plant, health) benefits. Plus, maintenance work on said turbines is also a source of some jobs for the area where farming was previously one of the few ways to make a living.

What fantasy world do you live in ?

[Inverted2]

1). Glad to see the Lysander wasn't terribly damaged and there were no injuries.

2). If you are defending wind turbines you have been brainwashed or you are not very intelligent.