Beaverskipper wrote:I've been a creeper for years but have to chime in on this one
I can't believe some of the things guys are saying about the 2 cases against WJ. I personally know the pilot and believe me he has been through hell these past few years and did and still suffers terrible depression issues.
I wouldn't judge too quickly guys these allegations are exactly that allegations !! I know for a fact that he had a company in alberta with 2 other WJ guys and with the 2008 - 9 economy there the company lost a lot of money . The so called borrowing personal money is bogus they all put money in the company was named KipNic for those Westjetters they will know who one of the partners was. DP called all those guys in 2014 asking them to make a complaint against Kippen. They refused ....
The hunt continued and many nights we talked for hours and his fears were realized when suddenly the benfits were gone and westjet wanted to bring him to a meeting without his lawyer or anyone from WPPA although WJPA could attend.
This was clearly to fire him even though he should still have been disabled and did not have a medical.
Too much detail for here and the courts will decide but on June 8 His family doctor called the OPP for fear that he would harm himself. He was involuntarily admitted to hospital and all firearms removed from his house.
My friend was in a terrible place and had been on depression meds since 2012 , there is no conspiracy to get money from WJ I've seen his letters to his doctors and the reports ....this man was sick.
Rather than offer help they continued to harass him , there are signs that Wj may have been
Longranger wrote:
What you are saying is pure BS, and really you only need to read the last line regarding ALPA to see that it is all about an agenda. To stoop to a low level and make accusations about two other pilots who had mental health issues, TOTALLY unrelated to WestJet is the height of insensitivity and shows your total lack of respect for other pilots, you claim to care about. I also knew one of the pilots who took his own life, and you are TOTALLY off base, and don't know what you are talking about. WestJet and the Pilot Support Network is very supportive, is industry leading and respected in the industry and pilots know they can come forward with issues, and all the resources will be offered to them.
I have worked at WJ for over 18 years, and also know the pilot in the lawsuit against WestJet very well, and can tell you with confidence that he is a scam artist, and has obviousily conned you into believing his story as well. He made choices in life, and one of them is to deceive and steal money from people. There are at least five pilots at WJ that have money owing from this person, and many more individuals and companies outside of WJ, in total in the hundreds of thousands he scammed. That's not my opinion but based on facts, just read the publicly available court documents. This is not a hard luck story about a pilot who has been unfairly treated by WJ, but a story of deceit, lies, innuendo with him using anyone and any organization to further his own self interest.
If ALPA were smart, they would get the real straight goods on this person, and run , not walk away from him, as nothing good has ever come from people who bought into his stories.....
involved in the raid on his property i( 10 OPP Swat team and 2 dogs all with battering rams and lots of adrenaline ) in mid July 2015. They were looking for bomb making materials even though Kippen was nowhere near being involved in the bomb threats against WJ.
Place was wrecked and he cleaned it up with some help from friends.
As for the law suit WJ came out with both barrels loaded with BS and did like they always do they tried to shift the blame back to the accuser.
They did the same with the Lewis case and continue to do it in the flight deck ... allegations of drug use , she was bipolar and ect.
She only was fired for swearing though guys , if you felt your daughters were being assaulted in the workplace and you kept getting blocked by the WJ old boys club wouldn't you have a few choice words for them . Id be livid if I was Lewis father or husband.
No matter what will be decided the company let the Captain get out of Dodge (Hawaii) even though there was an arrest warrant issued for him. They then let him fly only to certain spots where he wouldn't be put in jail.
This has to stop we are all pilots and some of the things happening are very disturbing and the only way to change most of this is to have a union separate from the management loving one the WJPA one is.
I personally know someone who is going through a terrible time now , divorce, financial issues and depression . This guy is so scared to go to management and tell them he's sick and needs time off to deal with those issues that he's flying as little as possible and trying to fix himself.
It used to be that PAT had power to not even disclose the pilots name for a few days till the dust settled but thats recently changed now Management needs a call from PAT with the pilots name and type of illness he will be off for......its scary Sh..
Cant wait for ALPA to move in myself !!