New hire bids

[Black_Tusk]

Does anyone know what is up for grabs for the class that started today? And potentially what they are trying to fill as priority for the next few classes before Xmas.

[AllClutch]

I imagine you will see a bunch of YVR jet before the new year as that base is supposed to be opening up Jan 1.

[Black_Tusk]

Since I posted the question I've now heard both the 14th abd 21st of this month were/are all classic. 16 per class. Between YVR/YYZ.

[HansDietrich]

I would imagine this would be the last class of the year, eh?

[Black_Tusk]

There is a class on the 28th, and another in early December. They split a 16 person class between the 28th and December. Don't know why.

[goleafsgo]

There is a class on the 28th, and another in early December. They split a 16 person class between the 28th and December. Don't know why.

Do you happen to know when in December the class would be?

[A V I A T O]

12th

[Pt6-42]

Nothing for yyc?

[Rowdy]

There are openings at All bases. This will continue as the last of the deferrals come up and we continue to expand. Mostly though, you'll see YYC and YVR. All aircraft at those bases and enough movement that even if you don;t get what you want base wise, you'll be there shortly anyways. Unless you're RJ and want YYZ.

[Kosiw]

Anyone with predictions for ground schools and hiring for 2017 ?

[Black_Tusk]

I've been told they need to hire close to 190 pilots by this time next year. That's more or less from people who would know but it's still second hand information. So take it for what you will.

[KenoraPilot]

Just an FYI: if you want YYC, don't "choose" the Classic. The base is tiny (21 FO roster) and the FO waiting list for YYC is quite long from what I've heard recently on the classic.

[HansDietrich]

Just an FYI: if you want YYC, don't "choose" the Classic. The base is tiny (21 FO roster) and the FO waiting list for YYC is quite long from what I've heard recently on the classic.

So any news (aka rumors) on what future Ground School "offers" may be?

[Rowdy]

Judging by the vacancies.. You'll see YVR CRJ, YVR Q, YVR CLASSIC and probably;y some YYZ Q and YUL Q and classic FO spots.

As a friendly pointer (I know it was asked elsewhere about RSV) I spent a whopping 2 days on reserve and thats only as I forgot to bid. It really depends on the base and the class at that exact time. With the amount of movement now its incredibly hard to tell, but either way it won't be long till you hold a block.

[KenoraPilot]

It all depends on your timing and base. I was the bottom in YVR for 5 months and on rsv now I am on the bottom in YYC and on rsv. Looks about 7-9mths of RSV for me before getting a flying line. Others are lucky and have never seen Reserve. It also took me 7mths to get the base I wanted....so it's all timing. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.....it's all seniority and timing based. Good luck!

[A V I A T O]

Starting GS next week - trying to get to YYZ. If given the choice of the Q400 or the Classic at a different base, could any current Jazz folks weigh in on which of the two fleets would see faster movement to getting a YYZ base?

[skypirate88]

Starting GS next week - trying to get to YYZ. If given the choice of the Q400 or the Classic at a different base, could any current Jazz folks weigh in on which of the two fleets would see faster movement to getting a YYZ base?

At the moment, I believe the Q movement is quicker. It also has the larger roster, so there's more chance of guys leaving.

On the last large bid, there were several vacancies on the Q in YUL, so that may be an option. Obviously, just don't bid the jet if you are hoping for YYZ.

Good luck!

[Black_Tusk]

Right now you may have trouble with the Q as a lot of pilots from the RJ moved onto the Q when it was reduced. I'd say the Classic is your best bet. There have been a number of ground schools for YYZ recently, so you may not get it initially. I imagine the next few GS will all be YVR/YYC Q and RJ.

Recent GS have been in no particular order, YYZ/YVR Classic, YYC RJ, YUL Classic/RJ/Q. Various of each, the most being the Classic.

[HansDietrich]

So the next ground school is Dec 12. Are there any firm ones scheduled in Jan 2017?

Hans

[flymore]

Guys, if you care about upgrading, it DOES NOT matter what aircraft you get on.

Captain upgrades are completely seniority based, regardless of your current aircraft type. For instance, if you are an RJ FO and a spot opens up for captain on the DH8, you will be given that spot (provided you ask for it, of course). Jazz will never stop you from switching over types if you are eligible to hold your first captain upgrade.

So suggestions for new hires, bid for whatever gets you soonest to your desired base. The upgrade will come at the same point, regardless of what you pick.

That being said, it is of course an easier transition to upgrade on the same type you are already an FO on. But there's no use planning all that when the upgrade is 1-2 years away and things can change. You might even be at Air Canada by then.

Just one tip as mentioned previously: if you want to stay in YYZ, pick anything but an RJ (if for some reason you don't know already, the YYZ RJ base is closing by mid-2017)

[Black_Tusk]

It's basically closed already. Most if not all pairings start with a dead head to YUL now. Until the official closure mid next year.

[Canada340]

Hans,

Most recent info I have it sounds like there will be a GS January 2nd 2017.

[Black_Tusk]

December 12 class,

5 YYZ Classic
5 YUL Classic
6 YUL Q400

[HansDietrich]

That's pretty cool. It seems to be that positions being offered are very diverse from class to class.

In the end, we all agreed when we applied to Jazz that regardless of what base or plane we get, even if we're the last pick, we'd be okay with it. I certainly will be. Sure, we all have our preferences, but just flying for Jazz is reason enough to have me ecstatic. Every city / base has its own pros and cons. Metal really does not matter.

The way I see it:
- Vancouver is beautiful, great flying on all airplanes
- Calgary is also great, mountains close by
- Toronto is a world class city and there are so many options if one does not want to live in the actual GTA.
- Montreal is a fantastic city with great culture.

I'd be super happy with whatever I get.

[BingBong]

That's pretty cool. It seems to be that positions being offered are very diverse from class to class.

In the end, we all agreed when we applied to Jazz that regardless of what base or plane we get, even if we're the last pick, we'd be okay with it. I certainly will be. Sure, we all have our preferences, but just flying for Jazz is reason enough to have me ecstatic. Every city / base has its own pros and cons. Metal really does not matter.

The way I see it:
- Vancouver is beautiful, great flying on all airplanes
- Calgary is also great, mountains close by
- Toronto is a world class city and there are so many options if one does not want to live in the actual GTA.
- Montreal is a fantastic city with great culture.

I'd be super happy with whatever I get.

If it were up to me I'd hire you. Very well written!! Good luck!