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Dress Code

#1 Post by FADEC » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:48 am

The Social Media Storm over United's "Passholder Dress Policy" provides an opportunity for Air Canada to jump ahead and stop treating Passholders like children.
If clothing is acceptable for the paying public, it should be acceptable for Passholders.
I am the first to agree that some people dress in poor taste, but if they want to look tacky, that is their problem.
AC needs to recognise reality and move into this century.
There are far more important issues than clothing.
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Re: Dress Code

#2 Post by JBI » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:02 am

I respectfully disagree. While I think that it is ridiculous that United was judging what kids were wearing (it should be age 16 and above or something similar), the fact is that the travelling public very much judges professionalism based on appearance. Should they? Probably not - but appearance is important. Therefore, if Air Canada or any other airline for that matter is allowing employees to travel on significantly reduced rates, they should be required, within reason, to dress in a matter that provides an appearance of professionalism.

I definitely do see the other side though - no one dresses up to go travelling anymore. If Susy Q public is allowed to wear ripped jeggings, why shouldn't we? (though you really don't want to see me in ripped jeggings :lol: )
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Re: Dress Code

#3 Post by atphat » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:03 am

I have travelled many times as a con. Not once has another passenger known I was an employee. How would they? Still. Rules are rules so I look the part.
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#4 Post by MrAviator19 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:35 am

I'm an AC employee and I follow the dress code, so does every other employee that I know or have known. AC has had this policy for a while now. Have even heard of friends of employees denied boarding for so much as wearing a hat (flying back from the Calgary stampede) while the rest of the dress code looked just fine. Sometimes it just depends on the gate agent. I know YUL agents are notorious for calling you out if the dress code is not what they have in mind. Just play it safe and adhere to the rules. I usually go business casual with a nice pair of shoes and never had any issues. :smt023

On the flip side, revenue passengers should have some sort of rules to adhere to as well in my opinion. These days people get on an aircraft with just about anything on. Pardon me for being sexist but don't want to see, or worse sit next to, a sweaty hairy fella in a tank top. :smt009
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Re: Dress Code

#5 Post by Old fella » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:01 pm

As a fare paying pax my observations are most people who fly are reasonably attired. Yes, you see the odd one(mostly, if not all, male) who stand out in some way. From my personal prospective, I travel in my oldest clean jeans and shirt as there is no way I shall wear anything new/good in and around airports/airplanes for many reasons. Interesting when I was at NC, managers who travelled were told attire should reflect their professionalism especially on NC business.
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Re: Dress Code

#6 Post by Black_Tusk » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:08 pm

A polo shirt, a nice pair of dark jeans and clean causal dress shoes fit the profile.

Now, if they allowed chino/golf shorts or something that would be nice. So I don't have to wear pants in the middle of summer. But I don't see that happening any time soon.
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#7 Post by mbav8r » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:28 pm

Sorry, regarding AC dress code there are special provisions for children, can't remember exactly but regardless of age, it is the parents(pass holders) responsibility how your kids dress. Also, there would be no upgrade if not in business casual clothing so I always made sure the whole family was dressed the part.
It's policy, so follow it, really quite simple!
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#8 Post by goingnowherefast » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:40 pm

If you're travelling on company discounted fares, it's the least you can do to look semi-professional.
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#9 Post by altiplano » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:51 pm

I absolutely support the dress code for cons.

I wish it applied to John Q. Public as well... if you want to travel in your pajamas or gym clothes take a fucking Greyhound.

There's a reason the golden age of flying is looked upon so fondly by most.

Young children do get some slack, but by the time you're a teen you should have the right stuff to put yourself together...
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#10 Post by mato » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:39 pm

I agree with having a dress code. How you dress shows the respect you have for those around you. As an employee, have a little respect for the opportunity and the staff involved that get you on your way. As for paying passengers, well most of the disrespectful ones take Westjet so I could care less about the pajama party they host.

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Re: Dress Code

#11 Post by Black_Tusk » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:07 pm

While were on the topic, people really need to keep their shoes on. I'll just leave it at that.
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#12 Post by fruitloops » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:32 pm

My last flight on AC I was given an available business class seat - i don't know if it's because I was wearing a suit jacket or seniority but there's another reason for a dress code!!
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#13 Post by Aviatard » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:13 am

FADEC wrote: There are far more important issues than clothing.
And yet here you are posting about it.
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#14 Post by Donald » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:01 am

Looks like good ol Gabor Lukacs has joined the fight, what a tool!!
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#15 Post by Redwine » Tue May 16, 2017 7:10 pm

atphat wrote:I have travelled many times as a con. Not once has another passenger known I was an employee. How would they? Still. Rules are rules so I look the part.
In the 80's & 90's you could always spot the cons-They were the ones in the last row wearing suits and ties.
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Re: Dress Code

#16 Post by atphat » Thu May 18, 2017 2:51 pm

Redwine wrote:
atphat wrote:I have travelled many times as a con. Not once has another passenger known I was an employee. How would they? Still. Rules are rules so I look the part.
In the 80's & 90's you could always spot the cons-They were the ones in the last row wearing suits and ties.
Sounds like it's better to be a con nowendays.
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#17 Post by co-joe » Sat May 20, 2017 10:42 pm

I thought "cons" wore orange jump suits and picked up garbage at the side of the highway?
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#18 Post by mantogasrsrwy » Sat May 27, 2017 8:44 am

mato wrote:I agree with having a dress code. How you dress shows the respect you have for those around you. As an employee, have a little respect for the opportunity and the staff involved that get you on your way. As for paying passengers, well most of the disrespectful ones take Westjet so I could care less about the pajama party they host.

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I bet a swelled head like yourself is a real treat to fly with too.
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#19 Post by duranium » Sat May 27, 2017 10:43 am

mantogasrsrwy wrote:
mato wrote:I agree with having a dress code. How you dress shows the respect you have for those around you. As an employee, have a little respect for the opportunity and the staff involved that get you on your way.

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I bet a swelled head like yourself is a real treat to fly with too.
Part of your post is right on, mato,
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#20 Post by mato » Sun May 28, 2017 6:11 am

mantogasrsrwy wrote:
mato wrote:I agree with having a dress code. How you dress shows the respect you have for those around you. As an employee, have a little respect for the opportunity and the staff involved that get you on your way. As for paying passengers, well most of the disrespectful ones take Westjet so I could care less about the pajama party they host.

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I bet a swelled head like yourself is a real treat to fly with too.
Only until the other pilot shows up in leggings then I start my dress code lecture... Unless they are the see through type from Lululemon: I just be sure to be the second one in to the flight deck!

You know I have given this some thought now and I take it all back. Forget the dress code, let people express their true inner self!
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Re: Dress Code

#21 Post by 1970's aviator » Sun May 28, 2017 11:39 am

Yes, I was an employee of AC, now retired. Yes, we had in those days a dress code that was way more stringent than what is expected from the company now a days but what I do see more than I would like to notice, is a substantial degradation of what is worn vs what should be worn.
If the front line employees deem that you and/or yours are not respecting the posted dress code when travelling on a pass, more power to them for refusing you passage as that is part of their job and responsibility and I applaud them for doing so. There are far to many employees who seem to believe that they own the airline and so, can get away with just bout anything short of murder. I for one in my many travels have seem far to many abuses of the dress code policy, the most recent one being a F/A on a pass seated in business class on an overseas flight proceeding to strip down to a sports bra for running and a very tattered and worn pair of cutoff jeans and then sprawl in her seat. She had AC written all over her, including the luggage. The I/C even came over to greet her and said nothing about the attire. What did the full house in business class think of that when they are paying big bucks for the ride. And that is but one instance. You want examples, just look around you, cons, more than not stick out like sore thums on an airplane.
Pass travel is a PRIVILIGE, not a God given right. The company makes the rules as it is their sand lot and their marbles. If you do not wish to abide by those rules, buy yourself a full fare ticket et better still, use an other means to get to where you are going.

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Re: Dress Code

#22 Post by BeechjetYKZ » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:19 pm

Why should there be a business-casual dress code if the flying public can wear a t-shirt and jeans? Should the whole point of employee travel not be to have people BLEND IN?! You're going to look very odd flying down to the Caribbean wearing a pair of slacks and a dress shirt when everyone else is in polo's and shorts. While I can understand not allowing people to fly down on passes when their dressed excessively sloppy, I think as long as you are dressed comfortably and your clothing is clean/modest one should be good to go.
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#23 Post by altiplano » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:51 pm

BeechjetYKZ wrote:Why should there be a business-casual dress code if the flying public can wear a t-shirt and jeans? Should the whole point of employee travel not be to have people BLEND IN?! You're going to look very odd flying down to the Caribbean wearing a pair of slacks and a dress shirt when everyone else is in polo's and shorts. While I can understand not allowing people to fly down on passes when their dressed excessively sloppy, I think as long as you are dressed comfortably and your clothing is clean/modest one should be good to go.
You could do Polo and Khakis.

Do you have a problem with that?
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Re: Dress Code

#24 Post by aerosexual » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:21 am

It should be airline and route appropriate, with certain restrictions. No open shoes for example. If one is flying to Varadero, it is silly to expect an employee to be dressed in business casual. I agree that being clean, presentable, with certain restrictions and to blend in is the way to go.

If you are a con on AC, I agree that business casual should be required if a seat in business class is to be available. Again, it's about being clean, presentable, and blending in.
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#25 Post by BeechjetYKZ » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:29 am

altiplano wrote:
BeechjetYKZ wrote:Why should there be a business-casual dress code if the flying public can wear a t-shirt and jeans? Should the whole point of employee travel not be to have people BLEND IN?! You're going to look very odd flying down to the Caribbean wearing a pair of slacks and a dress shirt when everyone else is in polo's and shorts. While I can understand not allowing people to fly down on passes when their dressed excessively sloppy, I think as long as you are dressed comfortably and your clothing is clean/modest one should be good to go.
You could do Polo and Khakis.

Do you have a problem with that?
No, I don't have a problem with it. The point I was trying to make was that I feel it is more important for pass-holders to blend in with the rest of the passengers. Once again, clean clothing that's modest (no tank-tops, exposed midriffs, or inappropriate graphics on one's shirt) should be the way to go. If you wouldn't let your grandmother see you wearing it, it's not fit to fly in. :lol:
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